No my children would come first. If they needed it I would have given permission and hang the consequences.
Posts by nugget
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16How many of you would have let your child die over the blood issue?
by UnConfused ini knew and planned, that if it came to that, i would close the door and tell the doctor to use blood to save my child and let god kill me for it if needed.
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i lacked faith that we were 100% right i guess so i couldn't take that risk.
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Newspaper article in Sydney Sunday paper about ex-jw poisoning elder
by etna init was in the sunday telegragh on page 18 "a murder attempt in chuch".
someone that was disfellowshiped has been trying to poison an elder and his family in adelaide.
i certainly don't agree with this at all, but i do understand this man doing something like this.
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nugget
This was an insane act and cannot be justified especially since it involved children. Whatever had happened to drive this person to these measures does not absolve him of guilt for the action he chose to take.
Many people suffer at the hands of this heartless organisation and make better choices. I can only assume that this man needs professional medical help.
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4/15 WT- WTS Doesn't Care about your Happiness- Just JW's Obedience
by flipper inbeen off the board for about 6 days or so battling a nasty bout of vertigo that hit me early this week.
at least my heads not spinning so i can think straight now to type a thread.
in this article titled, " maintain a complete heart towards jehovah " ( which should be called ' maintain a complete heart towards the wt society ) - wt society uses a lame illustration of a field laborer desiring family - yet missapplies this to jw's desiring " things of satan's world".. on page 15 it states, " a field laborer is busy plowing.
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nugget
It is nicely positioned that the family are a barrier to effective ministry, an obstacle. This will be the same family that has made huge sacrifices already to allow members to spend time and resources on theocratic things. The family are depicted as the weak link after all if they were truly spiritual then they would be out ploughing the field too. Once again a wedge is being driven into the family their opinion counts for nothing, their concerns count for nothing, they are nothing.
This article is way of getting people to focus solely on the task and not to trust themselves or others who start to say why are we ploughing this barren field when we could be doing productive, meaningful work elsewhere?
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Prelude to a disfellowshipping
by rory-ks ini was 25 years a congregation member; ten years an elder; all told, up to 18 years an appointed man; a decade or so as a full-time minister; assembly speaker, with the pinnacle giving the public discourse at a district convention.. .
i stopped being an active member of the congregation in november 2010, but it had been brewing for several years, with the customary gradual drifting away - all the necessary mental gymnastics as my spiritual views changed and doubts set in; quitting the theocratic ministry school; ceasing to answer; sitting quietly off to the side.
i think the straw that broke the camels back was when family worship inevitably became family worship.
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nugget
Welcome to the board. Anything published on the web is public and as a result will be used against you. Even if you do not criticise the society directly they will see any refusal to answer their questions as evidence that you have fallen away.
The control is growing and there are greater efforts to track down internet faders and cleanse the congregations of opposing views. They know that if they announce that you are no longer a witness you will be shunned there is no choice and members are not free to make up their own minds.
I wish you well and look forward to reading your blog.
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Please keep our buddy SD-7 in your thoughts (and prayers)!
by serenitynow! insd-7 texted me today.
his wife is in labor, has had some complications and is having an emergency c-section.
he asked me to spread the word to the folks on jwn.
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nugget
congratulations on the new arrival. Thoughts are with you all and hoping all goes well.
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Fakeness of the Elders When CO Visits Video
by TOTH ini just ran across this video and enjoyed it a lot.
i hope you guys do too..... i can still remember the fake-ass elders scrambling trying to get everyone to show up for service and put on a big face...lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=royjqnqrcc0&feature=related.
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nugget
Co visits were a time when elders turn on one another criticising their families and saying why they would make a better po or service overseer. I got fed up being told how unholy I was when I was struggling to look after a child with special needs in a religion that was damaging to him. Bunch of self serving, ambitious men with more interest in kingdom hall politics and appearances than brotherly love. it was all smoke and mirrors. Find the weakest and turn on them so that the co is distracted from other flaws.
Cos did give up a proper life to serve but they also had people running after them and ingratiating themselves. Not a position I ever envied.
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Elders want to pay a visit
by varian ini had a phone call recently.
two elders want to come round.. now i ve been out for approx.
8 years.
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It sounds as if they are cleaning house and looking to resolve your status. This visit is probably a formality prior to df'ing. If you have been out for 8 years I am guessing they could do their worst and you wouldn't really care too much so the choice is very much yours. What I would say is that they will not really be listening to you or what you have to say, their focus will be on establishing where you stand and if you cannot be brought into line you will be removed from their ranks. If this will help you shake them off and get closure then do it.
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untitled
by mrsjones5 ingot a twenty pound turkey last november.
a very kind organization gave my family another turkey and all the fixin's so i needed to store the first turkey.
asked my mother to do it.
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nugget
Limiting contact is all you can do.they both sound totally idiotic to me. I have had a similar experience where I had a relative trying to tell me my son had done something he definitely had not. As he has aspergers he can't lie to save himself so when he denied it I was inclined to believe him. She hadn't observed him misbehave and the only other suspect was the child most likely to do the very thing my son was accused of but he was the favourite. Sometimes you just can't reason with stupid.
Enjoy the turkey I really fancy a lovely juicy turkey about now.
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New here...need some support
by Freeof1914 infirst of all i am happy to be here..this site has been an invaluable tool which helped me get to the point where i am today.
i was born and raised as a jehovah's witness and i am now 30 yrs old.
my entire family are die hard witnesses; pioneers, elders, bethel etc.
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nugget
Take your time. Decisions like this should not be made on impulse. Advice given is sound and this board is an excellent place to explore your feelings and doubts before making any irrevocable decisions.
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I need your advice to reach my daughters!
by Cirkeline ini just spoke to my eldest daughter (i'll name her liv here) on the phone.
i am still shaking all over my body.
partly cause i'm scared to death, partly cause i feel there is a small hope.
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nugget
You can afford to take it slowly, since there is no Armageddon then time is on your side. Never give up hope and never give up, people change and what they once believed was true can change.
I would always take whatever opportunity you can to reassure them of your unconditional love and support. Whatever they say and whatever they do they are being controlled by cult conditioning and are not behaving true to themselves. They may say things that hurt you but be aware that this isn't them and for a time they cannot help themselves.
The sad situation in Australia shows that god does not take care of child abuse within the organisation in fact a good question would be why he allowed it to happen in the first place?
The best thing to do is o educate yourself on the available literature such as captives of a concept, combatting cult mind control, coc and others. This will help you to understand the weaknesses in the witness arguments and help you to connect with your daughters.
This may take time but there is plenty of it.