Posts by nugget

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Any suggestions on handling financial abuse of a senior by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?

by Balaamsass in

does anyone here have any suggestions on handling financial abuse of a senior by the watchtower bible and tract society?

mom gave a lot of money to the watchtower bible and tract society over her lifetime- (6 figures).

after she ran low on funds she made a 5 figure "conditional loan" to wtb&ts.

nugget

The society has liquidated a lot of assets recently they are not poor. The legal route coupled with media attention is the best way to go. Try to see if a firm will take on your case pro bono or they will take the fees from the society. However be aware the society plays dirty and uses every legal trick to stop complainants getting legal support.

Do you have any paperwork for this conditional loan? If there is paperwork then a lawyer can write to them quoting articles in the document in outlining legal action. He would also be able to advise why there is a reason why they do not feel that they need to return the money.

I would also take it up with your local political representative make a fuss on three fronts. They are relying on your mother giving up anf going away. On no account should you do that. To keep hold of her money is immoral.

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7777 posts and I have decided to --

by moshe in

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i was thinking (before i go buy my lottery ticket) , i have probably spent at least an hour of my time on this forum for each of those posts and not your typical kiss-me posts that some people love to fill up the forum with, either.-- 7777 hours is a lot of time and i have been reflecting on this almost eight year voyage- has it been worth it?

for me personally, yes it has.

i learned quite a bit about myself and how other people's thinking process works- if i knew what meds some were on, i wouldn't have wasted my time trying to convince them they aren't the messiah-.

nugget

Moshe I have always found your insight valuable and interesting. It is good to know that you are not going for good but I will miss your take on things.

I started as a fader more to avoid my children having to face the shunning issue but quickly discovered that to fade means keeping JW rules whilst JWs look down on your weakness. True freedom comes when you walk away and live life on your own terms and give your children real choices.

It is good to have the uncompromising voice of reason on the board to cut through the baggage and nonsense we all wrap ourselves up in. You always tell me what I need to hear even when I didn't always want to listen to it.

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Mexico merger - WT AUG 15, 2012

by St George of England in

in the latest 'study' version of the wt (aug 15, 2012) there is a report on the agm last year.. "balsatar perla interviewed three fellow members of the mexico bethel family regarding the merger of six central american branch offices with the mexico branch.

because of this merger, the bethel family in mexico has become more multicultural and international.

the influx of fellow believers from different lands has resulted in an interchange of encouragement.

nugget

If the end is close why are they downsizing? If the business world is to be destroyed and the world in chaos as God destroys the wicked how do the GB plan to communicate with all these disparate countries and where are the borthers to go in the short term with all the branch offices gone and internet down? Their actions do not fit their words since merger means saving money and liquidating assets and withdrawal.

Post Armageddon surely the buildings would have more value to the brothers than money which will be worthless.

I can only conclude that the society does not believe in armageddon only the bottom line.

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The Apostate Community is True a Worldwide Brotherhood

by cantleave in

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i met up with "jabberwock" last night, who took me a real american diner here in new jersey.

it would seem the apostate community are the true "congregation", in that every time i meet with ex-jw's i am shown genuine hospitality.. jabberwock - thank you!!.

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nugget

Glad to know you are having a great time. I've been earning brownie points at home

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Did anyone miss me?

by watersprout in

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nugget

Yes you were missed glad to have you back

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Horrid Time for Me

by Band on the Run in

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friends

my pain has been in remission.

i have a morphine pump.

pain broke through toward the end of the medication.

nugget

So sorry to hear you are in so much pain. I hope that the medication balance can be resolved to give you much needed relief. I feel so powerless to help with nothing but words but hope that knowing so many people love and care about you can offer some comfort,

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6/15 WT - WT Society can Run it's Business - but JW's Can't Have their Own

by flipper in

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in the typical do as we say , not as we do type mentality - the wt society puts forth in this current wt study article ( jw's only wt ) - that it's not " advisable " or " reasonable " for jehovah's witnesses to seek entering their own business ventures , or further themselves by getting a college education, or even have a career - due to the imminent coming of the alleged " end of the system " or alleged " paradise " .

the guilt and control used here is ridiculous.

in the article titled , " why put jehovah's service first ?

nugget

this is a typical article to control the rank and file and elevate the sordid money grubbing of the society as something holy and exalted. It never occurs to the congregations to question where the money is going. The number of branches decreases, assembly halls are sold off, printing down sizes and real estate is sold off and does not appear to be reinvested anywhere significant. There is no message from higher up saying that there is a surplus of money that can be shared out amongst those in need as in the first century. Rather congregations are told to give more and there are still loans to the society donations and contributions. I fail to see how the societies money reserves will be of value in the new system and if the time is so close then why the need to have still more money.

What they are doing actually doesn't fit with what they are saying. If the end is so close whay aren't there more branch offices since just after Armaegeddon how can the society communicate with all the remote places in the world. Consolidation fits the world pattern of efficeincy savings but hardly is compatible with a worldwide society coordinating the establishment of a paradise Earth. They are revealed to be a business by their actions.

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christmas puddings

by tornapart in

in our last ca it was said from the platform that the gb has said we shouldn't buy food that is only produced at certain times of the year.

although not specified i imagine they meant turkeys, christmas puddings, easter eggs, hot cross buns etc.

the reasoning that it's attached specifically to pagan festivals.

nugget

Talesin if you ever need the taste of home I'll make you one and ship it. My recipe is a traditional one used by many of your granny's era. I can't promise it will taste as good as hers but it should be close.

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Britain's Got Talent has been won by.......................a dog

by Amelia Ashton in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh7viwp5kre.

nugget

it is a very talented dog best dancing dog I have seen. Don't know about the other acts feel sorry for them.

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christmas puddings

by tornapart in

in our last ca it was said from the platform that the gb has said we shouldn't buy food that is only produced at certain times of the year.

although not specified i imagine they meant turkeys, christmas puddings, easter eggs, hot cross buns etc.

the reasoning that it's attached specifically to pagan festivals.

nugget

Chrismas pudding is a dense steamed fruit pudding with plenty of alcohol. I make my own and then leave it to mature. It should be served with flaming brandy, rum or brandy butter. It also goes well with custard, brandy sauce, ice cream or cream. Very rich and very festive. You can only buy them at christmas.