I wonder if those in the car were still counting time? It also amazes me that it takes them so long to call on you and then the convention invitation is the excuse. So you don't want to come to meetings but you might be interested in sitting in a stadium for 3 days listening to endless droning talks.
Posts by nugget
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19Had a visit from JW's yesterday.
by exwhyzee init took almost 3 years after we quietly left our last meeting (memorial 2008) before anyone came looking for us.
after nearly 25 years raising our family in the same hall and it was as if we didn't exist anymore.. that happened about a year ago but yesterday the boys and our daughter in law were here and were all having a late breakfast and lounging around in our robes an p.j's having a nice morning.
we were sitting at the kitchen table looking out the sliding glass door at one of those summer rains where it just buckets down all of a sudden.
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Greetings! My first post
by BU2B inhello all at jwn!
i have been a lurker here the last few months and have been going through the process of researching both sides of the story of jehovahs witnesses.
i was raised in the borg, got married and now have a young child.. my wife is very much dedicated to the organization and will justify anything the "slave" does putting it off on the borgs imperfection.
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nugget
Welcome to the board. Bookmarked for later.
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Marital problems - advice (or support) please
by jamesmahon incompletely non-jw related this but value the diversity of experience and viewpoint on this forum.
i am going to sketch this out quick as i can but please ask any questions if the gaps need filling.. as some may know, i have been married for 12 years with two children (8 and 4).
my wife stopped work when the eldest was born and has been a stay at home mum since.
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nugget
It sounds as if you are both emotionally out of the marriage, your wife certainly is showing interest in other men and has cheated emotionally if not physically. I understand that you love your children and do not want to be seperated from them. But is it actually good for them to be experiencing the atmosphere ay home where their parents are distant with one another. If your wife has tried twice to find a lover then she is likely to keep trying. Although you feel that you can remain together for the present, things change. What if she does find someone who is receptive to her advances? How long can you live without an emotional or physical connection? It is natural to want to be loved.
I would speak to a solicitor who specialises in family law and take independent advice. If you have been involved with the children from an early age and work from home then your rights may be greater than you imagine. The main issue is that your wife does not work and does not appear to want to either so that unless she can find someone who is willing to keep her in the style to which she has become accustomed she will be fighting you for every penny she can get.
Whatever you decide it is important that the children know that you love them very much and that nothing happening between their parents is their fault.
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nugget
what wew they thinking? It just shows that they are so tightly sealed in their own world that they have no idea how this will play with the general public. Seeing as September 11th is still a very sensitive issue and pictures like this one may be thought to be in very poor taste.
The society I think has been reaching out to the public less and less, it seems to me that magazines such as this one play to the rank and file helping to keep them on track with the idea the end is very close. I just think that they are all about retention rather than expansion which means it will be a miserable existence for those still in.
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Unexpected call from my JW Sister - Unbelievable Hypocrisy!
by chichimama_2 ini posted a long experience earlier today along with an email letter from my sister.
sent to me back in january informing me she was going to be shunning me.. had not heard a word from her for 6 months then.
my sister called out of the blue one evening last month.
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nugget
My dumb ass sister has shunned me for over a year and is pretty much on the same page as your sister. It is hypocritical of her to change the rules because she doesn't want to look bad at a reunion. I would go every year and let her decide when to stop playing games. After all if she was obeying the rules she shouldn'rt be eating with you anyway. Shunning makes witnesses look stupid, rude and cruel, they are comfortable being self righteous in their own little cult but feel uncomfortable wheh others might judge them. This should tell them that this is wrong.
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Do you miss the sense of security the organisation gives you?
by Mr Facts ini am sure most of you miss the sense of security regarding the future that the organisation offers- the certainty of everlasting life in the paradise earth, being healed and the confidence that you will definitely see your loved ones again if you remained faithful.
but why did you pursue a course of life that had suddenly turned everything into a fable?.
i have pity for you all.. .
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nugget
There is only a false sense of security since it is unreal. I do not miss being misled and pinning my hopes on a lie. A lie is still a lie no matter how well packaged.
Jesus condemned any religious leaders who misled the flock so for any christian that is a serious sin. He encouraged the disciples to have courage to break away from what was corrupt and embrace his message and commission. It has always been an important part of Christian belief to strive for truth and to turn aside from hypocrasy. The society has become like the corrupt Jewish system so anyone wishing to follow Jesus' example would have to have the courage to turn their back on it.
I suspect that you do not know Jehovah very well the Bible account shows that those who are complacent about their faith and blindly follow men are not those that he looks on in favour.
Check your own faith before preaching to others about theirs.
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What the hell was I thinking?! Stupid me!!
by freshstart inso my husband and i have a son who will be 2 years old next month and i really wanted him to be socialized more.
ever since we stopped going to meetings, we have been pretty much shunned even though there has never been an "official" reason for it (df, da..).
i am terribly introverted, so it's difficult for me to get out there and talk to people but our son is a people-person and i wanted him to have more peers to be around.
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your experience is very similar to ours when we were trying to fade but didn't want our children to loose their friends at the hall. We had been irregular at meetings and I went with my daughter one sunday just to maintain contacts. One of her friends was extremely rude saying she was having a sleepover but my daughter wasn't invited because she hadn't been to meetings. She made it very clear that friendship was conditional.
There are usually pre school groups available, music, swimming, gym etc. Check out what is available in the area as this is a good way to contact other parents and children of a similar age. Build from there with play dates. However children your son's age are happy to play along side other children in a couple of years time he will form friendships properly so you can take your time socialising him. What is important is that he learns how to make friends and find friends who are not conditional.
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"please sign in" was all mom said to me and my boys at her sisters funeral yesterday at the kindom hall
by oompa inmy dad never once looked at me...i went even though they did not come to the door when i went to tell her i was sorry about her sister...that i had heard through the grapvine her sister had died...they did not even ccall me...and they did not answer the phone when i left the message asking for the time and place of the funeral unless they did not want us to attend...and they did not call....but we all decided to go anyway and im glad we did....but it was surreal...i will share more later.
and i have a close friend nearby dfd about four years ago whose dad is dying and wont hardly ever talk to her... he does a bit but not her mom....neither does robert7s mom talk at all to him and yes it causes pain...but i think i am finally close to healing that last part of mine......oompa.
funny but just realized that the above two cases both people are recognizd as a son or daughter important enough to shun like me...but we dont get shunned like dfd and apostate sons at the funeral...just another attendee...wow.
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nugget
So sorry. You showed your compassion for them and they have lost out. Sometimes when we are the better person we are empowered they are the ones who cannot talk to us, they are the ones behaving badly. We have the choice to be there, to offer condolances to speak to them and to watch them struggle like fish on a hook.
Peace to you and your family.
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Interracial Marriage
by Quendi inhere is a question i want to pose because i do not know the correct answer.
i have seen many interracial married couples among jehovah's witnesses--moreso than i have seen in other religions.
however, i have been told that once upon a time, interracial marriage was frowned upon by the wts hierarchy.
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nugget
When I was younger I remember an article that stressed the difficulty of inter racial marriage. It stressed the cultural differences in such a marriage and advised against it.
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nugget
Congratulations to you and your husband. A fresh start for you both. It is a wonderful thing to be able to pursue ambitions and have the freedom to live life how you choose. I used to be in a congregation with army bases on the territory but they were rarely worked as the army made it very clear that witnesses were not really welcome. You may get a long rest from JW visits.