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  I NEED HELP!

  by nolongerconfused in

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  guys, i have faded about a 1 month ago...now 1 elder, who i consider a friend as a person and like a father is texting me.... i don't hate the guy, i consider him my friend even though i don't believe what he believes...he's telling me he hasnt seen me at the meetings and he's worried...he asked me if i could go in service with him this weekend...i have not responded, i dont know what to say since i don't want to go through no judicial committee or something like that...nobody there knows i know ttabtt...any suggestions on how i should respond?.

  thanks!.

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  You have two choices either ignore the message or respond.

  A simple text saying thank you for thinking of me but I am not able to go out this weekend but will call you if I need you. This is a stalling non threatening message that gives you breathing space.

  However you do not owe them or need to be controled by them. How you chose to respond relates directly to what you want to accomplish. If you wish to remain non threatening and fading then you have to live as a JW would live minus meetings and service and not appear to question the society. If your reasons for non attendance are personal weaknesses e.g. working too hard or medical condition then that is ok. If your reason for non attendance is non belief and you admit it then that is the death knell for your fade.

  with witnesses try to avoid probing conversations. If you are caught by surprise always have a strategy to force the conversation to be kept short either an appointment or somewhere else to be or illness the more contageous the better. focus on what you can say rather than what you can't. E.g.

  Thank you for your concern, I am sorry that now is not a good time to talk, I am dealing with personal stuff right now, I know where you are and will certainly contact you if you can help.

  Fading is an art and a lot harder than people imagine since JWs are natural snoops and able to pick up any nuance that shows that someone is not on message. Be careful.
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  I finally told my parents

  by nolongerconfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so as some of you already may know, i have stopped going to meetings for good and have nothing to do with wbts anymore...did not write a letter of disassociation because i dont believe an organization should spiritually execute me for rejecting men's tradition and false doctrine...some of you may recall i spoke to my wife and are in good terms, even though she's still an active jw.

  my parents are both active jw's...when i visited them yesterday, they clearly did not expect me to tell them i had left the "org"...to my huge surprise, after i explained to them i had found ttatt (truth about the truth) and gave compelling evidence of my reasoning, and using the scriptures, they totally sided with me...i was dumbfounded...one of my parents even brought up ray franz and his book coc....i was like wtf??.

  they told me all of these years they never had the guts to say anything about the hypocrisy in this org and they were glad that i as their son was able to step up and believe what is right and what is on the bible...they re-assured their love to me and they were happy i had found happiness in jesus christ and the need to have a personal relationship with him and not through a man made organization.... i totally did not expect this response from my parents...but it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active jw's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the org...still don't know what they are going to do, but i got the feeling they will do the same eventually and move on from the wbts.... have a great week everyone.

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  So happy for you. We all hope for understanding from our parents but many are disappointed. I hope you are right and now that they know you are out they will be able to leave too.
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  Bipolar Landlady kicks me out!

  by Terry in

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  fun times.. a year and a month have passed since i moved in to the house where my cousin deb and her husband bobby live.. i had a small but comfortable room, tv, etc.. a nice cozy family situation, you might say....right?.

  i pay $600 a month to defray expenses.. hunky dory.. sure.

  until the first few eruptions!.

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  Terry you can have my sofa any time. It is hard work dealing with mental illness of any kind and your cousin's husband is coping as best he can but need professional support especially if there is the threat of violence. If her rages are unexpected and explosive then working in a kitchen with her is problematic as who knows when she may go into a rage.
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  Aung San Suu Kyi on Desert Island Discs

  by nugget in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i particularly enjoyed the programme this friday and would recommend it.

  for those unfamiliar with this bbc radio 4 show famous people are asked to choose records they would take with them if they are stranded on a desert island.

  they are allowed to take one book (they are given the bible and the complete works of shakespeare) and one luxury.

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  I particularly enjoyed the programme this Friday and would recommend it. For those unfamiliar with this BBC radio 4 show famous people are asked to choose records they would take with them if they are stranded on a desert island. They are allowed to take one book (they are given the Bible and the complete works of Shakespeare) and one luxury.

  The records are played on the show and the person being interviewed explains why they chose them.

  As Aung San Suu Kyi has spent many years under house arrest in Burma it was interesting to see how she reflected on her life choices. In particular I was struck by her viewpoint that having made a choice she did not see her "suffering" as a sacrifice. She was prepared to walk the path she had chosen and embrace her choices.

  If you get 45 minutes to spare it is worth a listen.

  In the meantime what 8 records would you pick and what luxury and book would you choose.
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  The Good Food Thread

  by MrsCedars in

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  my inspiration comes from the ingredients i have at hand, very often leftovers, and also home grown produce, herbs and spices.

  i still have a lot to learn, but i have come a long way since i first started cooking for mr cedars.. i think the first recipe on this thread should by the one that oodad has posted on other thread.... .

  shrimp scampi.

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  I have a number of family favourite recipes that we have tried and tested. At the moment we are trying to develop some veggie ones simply because it is cheaper and healthier to eat some vegetarian meals during the week rather than all meat.

  One good tip I have found is that by adding balsamic vinegar and sugar to a tomato pasta sauce you get a much better depth of flavour.

  Vanilla extract added to pancake batter is also a winner and lemon zest added to curry lifts the flavour.

  Beignets are easier and quicker than choux buns and creme pat is easy peasy to make from scratch.
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  Ever wonder this about the annointed?

  by free2beme in

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  so in the congregation you had those wine and bread loving annointed people?

  but i ask, why did the men that were annointed not immediately appointed as an elder, and then a circuit overseer and so on up the ranks.

  it would seem to me, that if god saw them fit to rule in heaven.

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  Since annointed choose themselves the society has no control over them and therefore is unlikely to promote them within the organisation.
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  What is the most valuable thing your mother taught you?

  by usualusername in

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  what is the most valuable thing your mother taught you?.

  as an aside was she a witness or not at the time?.

  uun .

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  My Grandmother a non JW gave me the best advice. Never buy cheap paint or cheap tea. This is my creed it has never steared me wrong.
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  What is the most valuable thing your mother taught you?

  by usualusername in

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  what is the most valuable thing your mother taught you?.

  as an aside was she a witness or not at the time?.

  uun .

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  Amelia I love you your mum is an arse.
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  And yet another new member.

  by AMO in

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  hi guys & girls.. though you can sit back down in your seats now, sorry but not a jw, never have been & never will be, am a totally happy with athiest life, lol.. started lurking here about a year ago, started dating a jw woman didn't i, i here the face palms, lol.

  lucky for me i found this site while trying to find out more about the jw's very early on & knew exactly how this was prob going to end.

  but i thought what the hell lets see where it goes.

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  Welcome it is always nice to get a fresh perspective.
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  Apostates are narrow-minded victims of brainwashing who believe everything they read

  by cedars in

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  or so says the person who left this comment on jwsurvey.org.... what just amazes me is how people can pass judgement on others, make vast sweeping statements and make out that they know best.

  this isnt just based on this page, but other pages ive read on this website.

  while youre at it why not just say all black people are criminals, all asians are rapists and all white people molest their children.

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  JWs are deluded people and this comment shows they are. They complain about generalizations whilst making sweeping tatements of their own. I have argued with JWs and had tremendous fun doing so but I know that they just cannot see the flaws in their own arguments.

  It is good to have their perspective on a page it shows they took the time to look. They are not as strong in the religion as they think they are that is the irony.