if you are an employer, never hire a jehovah's witness.
the reason for this is simple: that mistake may cost you a lot of money!
you can bot expect a jehovah's witness to do what they are told to do, but you can expect them to do the oposite!
If she can't do the job she was hired for, I have to side with the boss based on the knowledge I have of the case.
If it goes to court that will be the key to the entire case. If it is determined that singing birthday songs is not one of her primary duties or she could have been easily replaced by another worker; Chi-Chi's will lose.
jelly
if you are an employer, never hire a jehovah's witness.
the reason for this is simple: that mistake may cost you a lot of money!
you can bot expect a jehovah's witness to do what they are told to do, but you can expect them to do the oposite!
Honestly I am unfamiliar with Chi-Chi's. If Chi-Chi's is a birthday orientated resturant like Chucky cheese, where the resturant is set up to catter to parties and that is their market niche, I would then agree with Alan F.
But if Chi-Chi's is a standard resturant then Chi-Chi's should have simply had another waiteress sing the birthday song and bring the cake.
I believe that the employer is responsible to make a reasonable attempt to accomadate their employees religious convictions as long as it does not damage customer goodwill.
Jelly
as jw's, we often hear the scripture about being no part of the world, you know the on where jesus says" i am no part of the world, just as you are no part of the world".
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i am curious as to what you're thoughts are on this idea, as a jw, you are always taught that you are automatically part of "the world" if you are not a jw.
The first big contradiction I noticed was the teaching that organized relgion was a snare and a racket, while we Jw's belonged to one of the most organized relgions of all.
Jelly
wts discourages certain books .
as far back as 1972, the watchtower society discouraged certain books, especially in the kingdom hall library.
what kind of publications should be found in the kingdom hall library?.
Hello,
One the actions that I will always regret is that when I started coming into the org. I tossed my personal library. Only about 150 books but they ranged from fiction to science, from evoulution to the physics of space travel. Sad.
One the actions that I will always cherish is when I tossed the Watchtower bound volumes. The person I studied with gave me the bound volumes back to 49; a few years were missing but not much. The bound volumes looked much better sitting in a dumpster than in my bookcase. Many of my brothers and sisters were envious of my library; I should have burned the volumes in the parking lot of the hall.
Jelly
hey ya'll ... ain't tuesdays, thursdays and sundays even better nowadays ?.
i was wondering what it is that you hated most about the meets ?.
the one thing that used to really rile me was the pressure to control the children - the frowns and the disapproving looks when they were just behaving like normal kids .... the worst of it all for me was seeing any little person being taken outside and hearing the loud slaps even when the door was closed .... what is it that you least miss ?
Heres a list:
(1) The sound of kids getting spanked; it was so loud you could hear it at the front of the hall when they were getting whipped in the back.
(2) The false kindness. Anyone that was inactive for a bit before they left should know how this feels. The people that would not acknowledge you outside the hall, because you were 'bad association', would give you a little cold and tight lipped smile when you showed up to the meeting hall.
(3) The formal dress attire. I always thought it was pointless; it makes more sense to dress for comfort and not for show.
(4) The length and consistancy of the meetings. All the information in a 2 hour Sunday meeting could have been delivered in 30 minutes or less.
(5) The politics of the collective. Grown adults getting upset because they were not called on to answer a question.
Jelly (Just the first five that came to mind)
what did you do first?.
contributing to the 4/10 of the world worldwide work.
going out in service
Hello All,
I never contributed either; living that JW lifestyle left me broke.
However I just had enough one day and went from pioneering to nothing, no attendance, no service, and little contact. I still believed it was the 'truth' so I spent years trying to get active again, but on some level I knew it was BS so I lived as a fence walker for a number of years. Eventually the Internet set me free so now I have no desire to go back, although sometimes I think of going to the memorial and partaking just for the reaction.
Jelly
...for cell research.. .
bwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhroflo.
skally, comtemplating suicide klass(i'm doomed anyway, right?
Hello Again,
I was watching a debate today on CNN between a Reverend and a Doctor. The funny thing was that the Doctor did a very good job of using the bible to show that God viewed fetuses (fetusi?) not as a human life but as property. The reverend was very stuned I dont think he was expecting that line of attack from the doctor.
Jelly
...for cell research.. .
bwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhroflo.
skally, comtemplating suicide klass(i'm doomed anyway, right?
Hello all,
What Bush did is a compromise position. He is allowing federal funding but only for the sixty existing stem cell lines. A stem cell line is a single fetus; from that fetus however you can incubate an endless number of stem cells. The catch is that all the stem cells from a single fetus will be genetically identical. This will not immediatly harm the scientific research, but as the research gets more advanced you need a varied genetic pool. In essence what Bush did was to give us about 2 to 3 years before we have to really decide the issue.
I wish Bush would have just funded all stem cell research, but I realize I should be happy with this minor victory for sanity.
Another suprising thing Bush is actually contemplating is to reduce the size of the American Military so he can modernize our Army. Personally I think this is another very good Idea. Large Armies by themselves do not win wars any more; you need a highly trained and well equiped professional Army.
Jelly
in 1967 or 1968 the society had a film out designed for teenagers titled "heritage".
it was the most pathetic, but hilarious propaganda movie i ever remember seeing.
does anyone know if this movie is still in existence?
Was that the one that showed the 'slacker worldly' boys working at a gas station?
If so I have been subjected it.
Jelly
i'm thinking that the mind-control games are very very very very much the same between mormonism and jwism.
i've lurked here for a while and thought i'd introduce myself.
my name is alex and i'm an unbelieving mormon who lives in utah.
Hello Alex,
I am from a town in Northern California with a large Mormon population; the town’s population is about 5K and we have two large Mormon Temples. While I think the Mormon’s do have some similarities to the Witnesses in Organizational structure, really that’s where the similarities end.
For example:
Before I became a JW, I had dated several different Mormon girls, with their parent’s approval; a JW parent would never let that happen.
Mormons go to college. If any criticism can be made here it is that the Mormon religion is focused on personal achievement and money too much.
Most Mormons are normal people that you could have a conversation with that doesn’t revolve around religion.
Mormons are different. A Mormon from Utah tends to be much more strict than one from California and Texas. Witlesses have such a strong social pressure placed on them to conform that witness are the same all over.
I lived with a Mormon girl that had moved out of her parent’s home at 18 years of age. Her church elders called her in to chat with her and she told them that she no longer wanted to be a Mormon; she was actually rude to them. The Mormons were still very polite to her and did not shun her in any way; this is a complete opposite of what the JW clergy and congregation would have done.
So in conclusion, Mormons have some similarities to Witnesses; Mormons however do not attempt to control every aspect of their congregation’s life, from association to education. In my view Mormons are just a strict and somewhat irritating religion but it does not achieve the cult status that the WTBS has earned.
P.S. I realize however that there are differences between Utah Mormons and California Mormons. It is quite possible that Utah Mormons might approach a cult like organization, however since my only experience is with California Mormons I can only comment on their behavior.
Jelly (Used to be smooth with the mormon girls class)
