i am confused about this board, could someone please clarify?.
is this board for current active jw's or for former jw's?.
from posts that i have read there is a very negative attitude.. please help!.
Tying not to be negative, What do you guys think of the timeline. I personally feel that the societies timeline is way off but it seems the Cricket did put a great deal of work into it. I wished she would still post because I would like to ask here If she really feels some Pyamids (sp?) were created before the flood etc, etc,. Her timeline seems to diverge some from what the society believes.
Jelly
Thats very funny Simon
Jelly
some more tips on child murder (for the benefit of our dear "friend"):.
*** w91 6/15 18 [italics mine].
if you have children, are you sure that they agree with and can explain the bible-based stand on transfusions?
It is more important that they know what they believe,
Isn't wonderfull that the sociey is there to let people know what they believe, if the society didn't tell them they may never know what they believe.
I think this is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in print.
Jelly
hello folks!.
the other day i read these simple but straight to the point words written by the american poet ella wheeler wilcox .
"so many gods, so many creeds, .
"So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
while just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs."
Interesting poem. It seems to me that we have so many ‘gods’ but when you look at the people that live out their faith completely you find that regardless of the faith the practice is the same.
For example look at the lives of Jesus, Gandhi, Mother Teresa, and the Dali Lama. Four people with four different views on what the creator is (I don’t think Jesus was a catholic). Yet when they lived their lives according to the way they felt their faith was directing them they ending leading similar lives. Its examples like this that make think that all theses gods and creeds are just different faces to the same god and different spins to the same creed.
Jelly
do you think the wts will ever reduce the number of meetings per week, maybe drop one night a week?
just curious!
it seems that everyone is so whipped from working all day, i really think that's why there is such a drop in meeting attendance.
JanH:
The surest sign of a mainstreaming would be that the requirements for field service and meeting attendance is lessened. So far, the only sign this is happening is the lower requirements for pioneers, and that may not be so important. Rather, it can be a sign the WTS wants to inflate the pioneer numbers after a decline.
I am fairly certain it's to inflate the numbers, after harping (boasting) for so many years about the number of hours spent in the magazine peddling business field ministry I think the society is trying to hide how much their numbers are actually dwindling.
Anglise:
Can anybody tell me why there are 5 meetings a week?
I have often wondered does the society intentionally keep witnesses so busy so they don’t have time to think. Really as a witness your life gets completely tied up in witness stuff so eventually that is all you have. No time for hobbies, education, family outside the org, etc, etc, and this isolation makes leaving impossible for some people. I have often wondered is this an intentional attempt to gain more control over the rank and file or just a by-product of their fanaticism?
Jelly
do you believe in reincarnation?.
i dont think i believe in it in the same way that most believers do, which is that we keep coming back in different fleshly bodies until we have achieved perfection.. i do, however, strongly suspect that we may well be spirit creatures who find it necessary to inhabit a fleshly body from time to time, and that this entails us having to leave behind most of our past memories.. i say most memories, because many people seem to have some vestigal recollections that don`t seem to fit in with earthly experiences.. i`m pretty sure that i chose my parents!
i have a recollection of being shown a young and kind couple through some form of astral telescope and choosing to become their son.
Being the poets that they were the following prose came about which illustrated the essential nature of this belief:I died as a mineral and became a plant,
I died as a plant and rose to animal,
I died as an animal and I was man,
Why should I fear? When was I ever less by dying?
Yet once more I shall die as man, to soar
In the Blessed Realm; but even from godhood
I must pass on. . .
What a wonderful poem Dark Clouds can I ask where you got it?
I don’t know about reincarnation it seems plausible to me and it does seem that over time the culture of the Human race is evolving so in a sense maybe as our collective souls get older we get wiser as a species.
As far a second sight and things of that matter, I do believe it to some extent. I know my great Aunt knew the minute her son was killed at Pearl Harbor. She actually saw a vision of a cross and her son on the front lawn, and this was before anyone knew the war was on. So to me there does seem to be some connection between people that science is as of yet unaware.
Jelly
i think it would be interesting to know whether or not you believe that the jews recovery of their homeland (israel) in the 20th century had anything to do with god?
qualify your answer if you care to.. zechariah
I agree with Simon I think that the resotred Israel has nothing to do with the modern country.
Jelly
freddie i asked you explain some of the cr#p you regurgitated earlier.. i'm still waiting for your answers.
aren't you able to defend your god the watchtower corporation against some simple questions?.
i'm sure if you went to the elders and told them some interested person you met on the internet wanted answers they would help you to make a good witness for the organisation.. why not ask them fred after all they are there to help you.
LOL TR
a bozo calling itself "shiningone" recently posted on the h2o board some typically bad arguments supposedly defending the bible.
i posted a rebuttal to a number of specific points, which is reproduced below.
guess what the response was.. those familiar with jw teaching will recognize some of the bad defensive arguments.. <hr>.
That's why I consider you to be intellectually dishonest, because as most Fundamentalist Christians do, even when you know the truth about certain false arguments you still present them as if they were good ones.
I agree I think most fundamentalist Christians have done a great deal of harm by trying to make the bible out to be a science book. Really I have never understood their desire to do this. To me science explains how things happen and religion explains why, two separate things. And I always shuddered when I would here people talk about the bible stating the earth was a globe etc, etc, because I realized they were taking metaphoric language and trying to make it literal.
Jelly
what a result!!
!...so are we gonna do it???.
is the dream of a repeat of 1966 possible???.
'WUZZIES'????
What’s a wuzzie is it some kind of marsupial? Do they bite?
Any way I can assure football is not a game for wussies, matter of fact they are thinking or redesigning the helmet because so many QB's are getting brain damage.
And unlike soccer at least football has some action and anyway jan some of the best things in life can be accomplished in 5 second spurts of action.
Jelly
