Sorry, that should read "doesn't" ". . . doesn't refer to just your God. . .". I was saying that it was refering to the concept of a personal God in general, not just Yahweh, God of the desert.
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Did they have this part right?
by desib77 inso what do you think happens to someone when they die.
i learned of the death of someone yesterday that was never a very good person.
i can't help but wonder where he is now... is he dead "aware of nothing" like the jws always said?
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pixiesticks
I don't know. No one living knows.
When you look at what actually makes us alive and capable of thought, it just doesn't seem possible that there is any after-life, particularly one where your conciousness is transfered to another place. But who knows! Maybe all energy in the Universe is reused in a never-ending cycle, maybe there are parallel dimentions, maybe we suddenly find out what everything all means and the purpose for our existance (if one exists). You could speculate wildly forever! But I guess we'll all find out soon enough! And if there is nothing, well we won't know to care. -
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A JW in X-Factor!
by bohm ini saw today that one of the contstants in the danish x-factor is a jw, and she is quite good!
a tabloid had a newspaper where she described her faith, she sounded quite nice and said she had never been teased by her faith.
the whole article can be found here (foreign language warning!).
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pixiesticks
A Witness is a congragation near us entered X-Factor in the UK. He didn't make it through the first round but was interviewed before he went in. His interview segmant ended up being broadcast on the actual show. Unfortunately for him, he was asked something along the lines of... "So why do you want to win the X-Factor?". He reply was, "The money and the babes." People from his congragation saw it and passed it onto the Elders. They refused to let him get baptised that year.
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A term that put me in my cult mind set...but only for a second
by doublelife ini was just hanging up my husband's shirts and started on the section where he had his dress shirts.
but what i thought in my head was "meeting shirts.
" and i quickly realized that i have to start saying "dress shirts" instead.
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Yup! Always.
It was always, "Oh, that's nice because it's neat enough to wear to the meeting", so it'd become part of my 'meeting clothes' collection. When I was younger and I'd sleep over at Witness friends' homes on a Saturday Mum would say, "Don't forget your meeting clothes!". It's something you don't even think about! I still think of certain items I own as 'meeting clothes'. >___< -
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Missing meetings due to the weather, and then attending meetings is making me Bipolar I think.
by miseryloveselders inwithout divulging too much information about myself, i'm on the east coast, up north.
we've been hammered by snow storms, and from what i hear we've got another one on the way tommorrow night.
this month, i've missed 4 meetings total.
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You're not alone in feeling this way! Not long ago we had a post about Witnesses who hid in the toilets at Kingdom Halls and Assemblies, just to get away from it all. I used to actually sleep all day in the toilet stalls at the assemblies with my coat folded up against the wall as a pillow! I just couldn't take being out there, having to listen to those talks and having to feel so awful. It just saps all your energy does't it? Physical and emotionally. It makes you anxious and claustrophobic.
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Why does the WTBS hate sex so much?
by highdose innow i know they try to control everything and pretty much ban anything.
but sex seems to be somthing they can't stand and would like to get rid of completly if they could.
so many articles and so much conusel about not having sex or having anything to do with sex from any angle at all.
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Stephen Fry summed it up for me when he said that certain religions "...are obbsessed with sex in the way that an anorexic person is obbsessed with food."
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To athiests who hate God
by EndofMysteries inquestion, if this is true, in the book of enoch chapter 10:11-12, "all the sons of men shall not perish in consequence of every secret, by which the watchers have destroyed, and which they have taught, their offspring.12all the earth has been corrupted by the effects of the teaching of azazyel.
to him therefore ascribe the whole crime.
if that is god's truth, and your only accountable for your own wickedness and actions, would you feel guilty for your accusations against god?
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"Obviously none of you fit what I was referring to. I'm speaking of those who say they hate God, the bloodthirsty, etc, etc, on top of not believing in him. If he is real, he's just a bloodthirsty, etc, etc. My post was just to point out, if you believe if he's real his only a bloodthirsty, etc, etc, that perhaps many of those scriptures could have been apostacy that had been inserted or edited. Anyway, I did not assume all hate God, and have bad feelings, which is why I said to those "who hate God", not, to all athiests."
I see what you mean... sort of. I certainly used to qualify as someone that hated God. In my last couple of years as a Witness, when I still completely believed in God, I'll admit, I despised him with everything I had.
Did I hate him because he was bloodthirsty? Yes! I hated him for all the killing, all the unspeakably evil acts that he had supposedly committed either himself or by command. The innocent babies and children, the pregnant woman that he struck or ordered struck down. All the cruel and brutal laws. All the good, kind people I believed he would kill in the furture. It's hard not to hate a God like that!
God's acts of mercy and kindness in the Bible compared to his acts of violent judgement and punishment are few and far between. To highlight the few good things God has done and point to those as examples of God's inate goodness is a bit like pointing out that Hitler was a painter and a vegetarian. A couple of kind acts or good qualities don't negate all the numerous evil deeds committed.
As for your asking if I would have felt guilty at having misjudged God at the time I was still thinking this, no I wouldn't. Claiming that the scriptures detailing God's bloodthirsty military campaigns and his slaughter of numerous humans are just human written apostasy means that you are throwing the validity of the entire Bible into question.
What parts of the Bible do you believe were inspired then? Just the happy smiley parts where no one gets killed or threatened? How do you prove that?
But even granting you such unfounded conjecture (that the horrible bits of the Bible are written by man and the good parts by God) I still don't know why should have felt guilty about hating God. I had only the evidence of the supposedly God-inspired Bible as my source of information. If God had allowed such severe human tampering of the only book he's ever written; his supposedly holy and crucial instruction manual for all man-kind, humans' only link to him, then God is still responsible for the fact that I and many other people came to the conclusion we did. He couldn't realistically expect me or anyone else to think he were wonderful and lovely contrary to what is written about him in his 'divine word'.
If short, if God existed and cared about his public image and what people thought of him, none of that stuff would be in the Bible. He wouldn't have allowed it, or would have at the very least provided evidence that it wasn't true. And if he meant it as a test... well, he's cruel on an entirely new level then.
Of course, that would have been the thinking of my Theist mind. As an Atheist, I can't hate what doesn't exist. The fictional character of the God Yahweh as written by men still turns my stomach, but for different reasons now. -
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To athiests who hate God
by EndofMysteries inquestion, if this is true, in the book of enoch chapter 10:11-12, "all the sons of men shall not perish in consequence of every secret, by which the watchers have destroyed, and which they have taught, their offspring.12all the earth has been corrupted by the effects of the teaching of azazyel.
to him therefore ascribe the whole crime.
if that is god's truth, and your only accountable for your own wickedness and actions, would you feel guilty for your accusations against god?
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Atheists don't believe in God. How can you actively hate something you don't believe in? That's like someone saying "I really hate that toothfairy", or "I really hate the Wizard of Oz". You could hate the character within the context of what ever story they appear in, but an Atheist certainly wouldn't feel guilty for speaking or thinking badly of a fictional character.
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Do you miss God?
by wobble inif you are one of the posters on here who has got to the point where you do not believe in god to any great extent, do you miss "him".
i find that i rarely used to ask god for anything, or load him up with my problems, everybody elses were far more urgent, but i did used to feel moved to praise him when i saw the beauties of creation, a sunset etc.. i now feel an urge to still do that, but do not believe anyone is listening, do you get moments like that ?.
love.
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pixiesticks
I miss God as much as I'd miss having a crazy person follow me my whole life holding a gun to my head.
Short answer. No way! I could have done the snoopy dance the day the penny dropped and I realised it was all a lie!