I just found this site a few weeks ago, so I wasn't able to follow Ian's posts in realtime. But I'm reading them now, and man does this guy have a story!
My next Scotch will be raised to your memory, Ian, and all the good work you did here.
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love to his wife claire and their family and to all who loved and mourn ian.. blessings,.
marjorie.
I just found this site a few weeks ago, so I wasn't able to follow Ian's posts in realtime. But I'm reading them now, and man does this guy have a story!
My next Scotch will be raised to your memory, Ian, and all the good work you did here.
i'm sure this has been posted somewhere before, but i did a quick search & couldn't find anything, so here goes.. .
*** w52 3/1 p. 142 par.
18 propriety of disfellowshiping ***.
To think that I succumbed to this organization for three decades... The logic these people use is like it's coming from a 5-year-old. And by saying this, I mean no disrespect to actual 5-year-olds.
do you believe the bible is unfallible, unerring and totally accurate?.
do you believe the bible is a "good book" with much good about it but not something that should be totally believed?.
do you not believe in the bible at all as being "god's word"?.
Good book. Good message. Good principles. Not a history book. Not a verbatim instruction manual from God. Not a Da Vinci mystery. Nothing about it is much different from any other historic "holy" book. Also, it happens to be a book that was solely in the hands of the Catholic Church for centuries. This last fact alone is enough for me to exercise reasonable doubt as to its veracity; not to mention the stories of talking snakes, immaculate conceptions, oceans parting on cue, resurrections, healings, giants walking the earth, etc.
*** lv chap.
13 pp.
144-159 celebrations that displease god ***.
Add to the list: Flowers and the Honeymoon, both of which have links to a pagan past. And don't forget that JWs are allowed to say '"fortunately" but not "good luck"; which is strange since the origin of the phrase "fortunately" lies with old Lady Luck. The June 8, 1992 Awake: "She was called Fortuna by the Romans, and the city of Rome eventually had 26 temples erected in her honor."
Hmm.
And forget about the pagan history of the utterance "Amen", the ritual of baptism, the Lord's Evening Meal, fireworks, Luaus, playing cards, theaters, basketball, Feng Shui, wind chimes, bouquets of roses, blinis (pancakes), embalming, eating of chocolate, etc.
As Dr. Alexander Wilder states ("The Christ", John Remsburg, chapter 10): "There is not a fast or festival, procession or sacrament, social custom or religious symbol, existing at the present day which has not been taken bodily from Phallism, or from some successive system of Paganism."
I couldn't have put it better myself.
in the end years i would.
after the public talk and after the tms.
in fact there would often be a mass exdous out of the door.
Never left at halftime, but toward the end I had a buddy (left the religion years before) who would text me game updates especially on Thursdays and Sundays. It helped pass the time with minimal pain. One night a brother caught me checking my texts and approached me after the meeting. I showed him my "method" for keeping up on games. We had a good laugh until an elder nearby overheard our conversation, made a snarky comment, and walked off. Then the brother got a verbal spanking from his wife and left, giving me a thumbs up as he walked away.
He is still "inside" but I have high hopes for the guy.
just wondering.
it makes me think whoever underlines the wt without going throughly is purely hypocritical.
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To study w/o underlining would be like buying a high-dollar sports car w/o ever taking it out of the garage. JWs underline so they don't get hassled by the R&F who are themselves stuck into underlining. It's peer pressure at its worst.
i met a jw who said he hated driving to the kh because satan always changed the traffic lights to red so that he'd be late.
this is so absurd, showing how paranoid some of them are.
what similar, equally retarded, reasoning have you come across?
The last time I heard Satan blamed for this much garbage was when I watched "The Waterboy." I remember growing up, with my dad everything was "from the Devil"; school, science, history, entertainment, politics. You name it, if it didn't agree with the WT (which is pretty well everything) it was blamed on the "Wicked One."
Glad to be free of that fictional mindset, where everything bad is the Devil and everything good is God.
Can't it just be life, or is that too simple?
would love to hear how.
i'm sure many others here would also..
I left first, but my wife was always supportive. Confused at first, but supportive. She came out roughly a couple years later, finally telling me she had been unhappy for a long time and didn't know why. In the end, independent Bible study freed her mind and she saw the "Truth" for what it was. The incredible lack of love and hypocrisy on the part of the brothers slandering us also helped her grasp the fact that this is NOT an organization based on love, but on senseless actions and showy displays; truly 'a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power.'
i was raised in from about 10. mum contacted by door to door work.
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Born in. Third Gen.
"we should be mindful".
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
"Is he/she in the Truth?"