And what about our sense of justice? There's no justice in the jungle so why and how did we developed something not found in nature? - John MannYes there is.Do sone research on vampire bats for one of many examples. All social animals have social rules.
Posts by cofty
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36An interesting reasoning for the existence of God (from JW public talk)
by anointed1 ini was on an official tour last week to another part of my country.
on my way to the hotel, i noticed sign-board of jw kingdom hall.
i thought i would attend sunday meeting as i knew no one would recognize me.. seeing “a new-comer” in the audience, public speaker adapted his material making it especially appealing to me.
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My Thoughts on the Subject of Faith
by Saethydd ini've had several discussion about the basis for faith in an all powerful creator for the universe, and it seems as if the conversation often comes back to, "well, either way, you have to have faith either in a creator or in the process of evolution because you can't observe that either.
" setting aside the issue of creation and evolution (where i currently sit at undecided), i was also troubled by the tendency to treat faith as a static or absolute concept when in reality it is far more complex.. to begin with, faith isn't just about belief, it combines the concepts of belief and trust.
for the purposes of this discussion, i will be focusing primarily on the second attribute.
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cofty
To begin with, faith isn't just about belief, it combines the concepts of belief and trust. For the purposes of this discussion, I will be focusing primarily on the second attribute.
It is not possible to trust somebody until you first show that they exist.
Since there no evidence that the god of christianity exists believers use faith to fill the gap. Faith is pretending to know things that we have no evidence for.
We can show beyond all reasonable doubt that the god of Jesus is impossible.
"Well, either way, you have to have faith either in a creator or in the process of evolution because you can't observe that either."
Yes people who know absolutely nothing about the evidence for evolution do like to say things like that. Don't fall for it. Evolution is a fact....
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Bro Knorrs Notes RE Disfellowshipping & Two Witness Rule
by pale.emperor inhi guys.
a fellow ex jw shared this with me.
haven't time to read them yet (i'm using my phone to go on internet).
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cofty
Very interesting. Notice that the reason for the disfellowshipping was to be stated to the "company".
Would rightly result in legal action for defamation now.
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Update to UK “Child Safeguarding Policy”
by wifibandit ina known poster on this site (anon) says:.
i have just received a text from an elder i've known for decades in my circuit who has some sympathy for my feelings and who is aware of the arc, the uk charity commission, etc., etc.
here it is verbatim, and my reply.
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cofty
In the event a matter involving the abuse of a child is brought to the attention of congregation elders, two elders will contact the Legal Department at the branch office as soon as possible for legal advice to ensure that they comply with any relevant laws.
So no change at all then. Idiots!
The law in the UK does not require reporting therefore NOTHING HAS CHANGED!
I have been involved in child welfare through sport for many years. Every adequate Child Welfare policy emphasises one key point...
If you become aware of an allegation of child abuse you WILL contact the police or social services. If a child doesn't want you to contact the police you will still contact the police. You should also inform the child welfare officer of your local club or national sport governing body. However this is secondary to your requirement to inform the police or social services.
This will not do.
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The con is completed - comments from the US branch's LDC chief
by sir82 inrecently attended a special assembly day.. guest speaker was thomas chicky, a member of the us branch committee and the head of the us ldc (which has replaced the rbcs).. the last talk of the day is scheduled for an hour.
it was the usual boring mumbo-jumbo.
he appeared to have blasted through his hour-long outline in just about 45 minutes, so he "treated" us to informal comments on recent developments.. he commented on the new wt complex in fishkill ny.. then he dropped the bomb (well, to anyone with ears and at least 2 functioning synapses).. the following is not a word for quote, but presents the gist of his comments:.
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cofty
I am still puzzled about where the money is and why.
I haven't heard a credible explanation yet. They are hoovering up huge sums of cash but you can only sell the family silver once.
What on earth is going on? I will be surprised if anybody is getting personally wealthy. It's bizarre.
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Philomena Cunk, Christmas 2016 "Moments of Wonder".
by Simon inthis is a funny, kind of reminds me of ali g with some of the questions.. i love religious / biblical irreverence .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hna6b66bilk.
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cofty
Very funny. Saw this on TV earlier this week.
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Who is Gog/Magog?
by Cold Steel inezekiel spends two chapters (38-39) describing a war that either will never take place, or which has yet to take place.
according to the prophecy, the warlord gog, of magog, will 1) sweep down on israel, covering the land like a cloud.
this will happen in 2) the latter years when israel will 3) be a people “gathered out of many nations” and peoples.
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the topic of Gog has garnered much interest in Jewish, Christian and Muslim discussions. - Coldsteel
Meanwhile in other news, Bilbo Baggins will be swept into a quest to reclaim the lost Dwarf Kingdom of Erebor from the fearsome dragon Smaug.
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Question.
by phats inhi, is there a scripture saying it's okay to beat your wife with a stick no thicker than a mans thumb or is this a myth?
i remember something & have done some serching but need help.
phats.
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Cofty I thought it was the opposite. I thought the Quouran stated it was *not* ok to beat your wife, even with a feather. Maybe Jwdaughter May be able to help with this. - Dio
Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand. - An Nisa 4:34
I have invited JW Daughter to disavow this verse numerous times. So far she has declined to do so. Muhammed was a pedophile and a wife beater.
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No updated Watctower's articles on Evolution
by opusdei1972 inas far as i know, the "creation" book is out of print ?, am i right?.
well, i was searching for new watchtower articles trying to debunk, for instance, human evolution.
so, i did my homework, for the first time, so as to read past and updated papers and books on human evolution.
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they could even accept human evolution too, as the Catholic Church does. I am not saying they will necessarily, but it's possible - SBF
No they couldn't. The ransom is the cornerstone doctrine of the cult and it depends on the lie that every human descended from a literal Adam.
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No updated Watctower's articles on Evolution
by opusdei1972 inas far as i know, the "creation" book is out of print ?, am i right?.
well, i was searching for new watchtower articles trying to debunk, for instance, human evolution.
so, i did my homework, for the first time, so as to read past and updated papers and books on human evolution.
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I just lack knowledge of macro evolution at the minute as I've never read up on that as I've only read the society's publications on it - Midnight
If you look at the end of the OP of the following thread there are links to the other 37 threads in the series. I need to get back to this.