MCL - What scientific books that present the evidence FOR evolution have your studied in recent years?
If somebody had got all their information about the Watchtower from anti-WT sources would it be intellectually honest of them to reach a conclusion about the organisation?
Do you see the parallel? Would you like to discuss it or even see a suggested reading list?
so, if you expect to find 'saints' with halos, you will never find real christians.. after over 30 years of being a jw, there are many things about the org that disturb me- yet no one else even acknowledges the only true god, as jesus referred to him.. not a 'they' or 'them' ('trinity')- but him!and he has always had the name jehovah (yehovah in hebrew)- even though the koine greek had no version of it when the nt was written.. so among the many things real christians have to endure- is often each other!
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Hi MCL - welcome to the forum
It seems that your confidence in the leadership of the organisation has taken a hit but your have not seriously questioned your faith in god or in the bible.
I was in a similar position a number of years ago.
What are the biggest reasons that make you convinced about the fundamentals and is there any potential information that could make you question them?
this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
As a single-party state, with large and well-organized military and security services, Viet Nam has been able to make decisions quickly and enact them promptly. There is also a strong culture of surveillance, with people expected to inform on their neighbours if they suspect any wrong-doing. Source
this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
The key thing for the UK is to make sure that the NHS can cope. So far nobody has been refused a ventilator who needed one and there is spare capacity.
Pending an effective drug or vaccine it's about managing the risk
Anon it's a mistake to confuse the issue with reference to things that are logically impossible.
Stick to reality.
God created a world perfectly designed to maximize the suffering of conscious creatures. He subsequently has done nothing to alleviate that situation.
That doesn't make a god impossible but it does destroy the god of Christianity.
Cofty, you dismiss God because you lost faith in your invested faith in what men have told you
Joan do you ever read a single word your interlocutor says or do you just keep typing regardless?
How many times do I have to tell you that after I left the Watchtower I became a born-again christian for a decade. I was a 'real' christian. Born-again, forgiven, saved, justified by faith, adopted son of god. I lived and breathed the gospel every day. I preached justification by faith alone. Sola Scriptura. My gospel was simple - 'By his stripes you are healed'. It was diametrically opposed to my former beliefs as a JW.
My ultimate loss of faith and adoption of reason was NOTHING to do with my previous life as a JW and EVERYTHING to do with the irrational nature of christian faith. Stop spouting banal platitudes and try engaging in an actual conversation.
Ah the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy. I was waiting for that.
Every cult dismissing their 'apostates' as never being genuine members.
Joan - You are no less a cult member than any JW.
Dr Who - Nobody is suggesting that an omnipotent god should be able to do things that are logically impossible. You are inventing a straw man because theism is destroyed by its own internal contradictions.
The god who created a planet that is perfectly designed to maximise the suffering of conscious creatures is either useless or evil.
Occam's razor suggests he is simply a figment of human imagination.
not sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.
i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.
to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.
MMM - You are missing the point.
The god of xtian theism knows every single thing I will ever say, think or do in minute detail.
Therefore the book of my life from conception to death is already written in stone (the god of the WT chooses not to read the book - an irrelevant detail)
Therefore I have no freedom to choose otherwise.
