By the way, when I wrote: "She isnt going to attend your meetings, and she isnt going to sit down and read your literature(if you have any)", I was talking about your wife, not your daughter .
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Interfaith marraiges and children
by garyneal ini just wanted to share this story with everyone:.
last weekend on saturday, my wife found out that field service was not being cancelled due to snow.
all week prior to saturday, my wife kept saying that she was going to swim classes with my daughter and i and actually swim with my daughter that morning.
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Interfaith marraiges and children
by garyneal ini just wanted to share this story with everyone:.
last weekend on saturday, my wife found out that field service was not being cancelled due to snow.
all week prior to saturday, my wife kept saying that she was going to swim classes with my daughter and i and actually swim with my daughter that morning.
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bulgogiboy
Wow this is a really interesting post. I was raised in a divided household, with my Mum being a jw and my Dad being an agnostic/indifferent Christian. I eventually started going along to meetings properly at about the age of 18. It's really commendable how you're trying to make an effort to accomodate her jehooberish shenanigans. There is so much room for division, I hope you can keep it all together... First of all, I think your daughter is going to continue to choose your church over the kingdom hall, as I know from personal experience that attending a KH is far from inspirational/spiritual for the average child, in fact its the most mundane, grey and dull place a child could ever end up in in a Sunday morning.Maybe you could point out that expecting small children to sit silent and still and listen to monotone Biblical sermons for up to 2 hours or more is an unreasonable expectation and that its only natural your daughter will choose a place with more activity going on. Is there another option where your daughter can go to a friend's/aunt/uncle's house to play instead of attending a religious ceremony? She isnt going to attend your meetings, and she isnt going to sit down and read your literature(if you have any). This is the great jw double standard:'keep an open mind, be open to new spiritual experiences, and question your religious convictions/leaders UNLESS you are a jw'. Frankly I fear for your future together, as I saw how my Mum's smug pigheaded and selfish fundamentalist attitude eroded away my Dad's liberalism and tolerance to the point where he despised all things jw. You should hang in there for a year or so, keep showing patience and trying to plant seeds of reason in her mind, but if she is still full-on jehovahist after that, and still selfishly devoting all her time to distributing magazines and comparing clothing at the KH, then I would seriously consider divorce. Better sooner than later.
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The biggest freak you ever knew in the jws?
by bulgogiboy ini find hearing about super freak jws quite entertaining, so if anyone has any interesting stories about the most mental jws they had/have in their congregation then please share!
the biggest freak i had in my cong was a guy who could literally read your mind.
i'm not kidding, i mean he appeared to have a profound psychic ability.
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I find hearing about super freak jws quite entertaining, so if anyone has any interesting stories about the most mental jws they had/have in their congregation then please share!
The biggest freak I had in my cong was a guy who could literally read your mind. I'm not kidding, I mean he appeared to have a profound psychic ability. He recounted to me details about my life that he could never possibly have known without having this weird power. He was really paranoid about using it as he didnt want to get disfellowshipped. Before he became a witness he openly admitted to going on 'astro-travels' with the help of demons. Apparently one time he went into a trance and visited Paris with demon assistance one time, and woke up covered in dust, and able to recall details about walking the streets of Paris that seemed breathtakingly accurate for someone who had never been there. After these 'travels' he would be in bed for days with fever, exhausted. I'm not saying I believe this, but the guy certainly had an unmistakable ability that seemed to me to stem from something paranormal. This guy was also a reformed alcoholic, manic depressive, and in my opinion latent homosexual. Much as I dislike the religion he stands for, I cant help but smile and wonder when I remember some of the things he came out with....
Anyone got bigger freaks they can recall?
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Does anyone else have a morbid obsession?
by bulgogiboy ini have to admit to having developed a very strong obsession with my own mortality in recent years, since breaking free from jw doctrine.
i think about death a lot, and if i really sit and think about it hard, i can freak myself out big time!
i dont want to think about it, and outwardly its not apparent to other people, but it is something that seems to pervade my thinking, something that haunts me.. perhaps i should be excited, because i realise that on the whole what i came to believe as a jw was fabricated, and maybe there is an amazing afterlife to experience, but at the same time i do tend to agree with jws about death being the end, i just dont agree with the whole resurrection claim they add on to it.. i have known two people who were temporarily 'dead' on the operating table, one of whom was dead for several minutes(one of these people is a friend who shrugs it off like it was nothing!).
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And by the way, freudianslip, that isnt your real pic is it?
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Does anyone else have a morbid obsession?
by bulgogiboy ini have to admit to having developed a very strong obsession with my own mortality in recent years, since breaking free from jw doctrine.
i think about death a lot, and if i really sit and think about it hard, i can freak myself out big time!
i dont want to think about it, and outwardly its not apparent to other people, but it is something that seems to pervade my thinking, something that haunts me.. perhaps i should be excited, because i realise that on the whole what i came to believe as a jw was fabricated, and maybe there is an amazing afterlife to experience, but at the same time i do tend to agree with jws about death being the end, i just dont agree with the whole resurrection claim they add on to it.. i have known two people who were temporarily 'dead' on the operating table, one of whom was dead for several minutes(one of these people is a friend who shrugs it off like it was nothing!).
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Freudianslip: I know exactly how you feel. Whilst the thought of death doesnt make me 'question' my agnosticism, it makes me feel slightly envious of people who are deluded by firm religious conviction. I refuse to force myself to believe in something just because it provides some false comfort though. I would be betraying my conscience if I did that. Just keep in mind that people with fundamentalist mindsets are in exactly the same position as us, they just dont know it .
I think the fear of death is what causes a lot of people to miraculously 'find faith', especially later on in life... I think fake it til you make it is good advice, ive been following that motto for quite a few years now.
And also, in my opinion, anti-depressants are highly questionable. Research results recently published have provided some quite compelling evidence to suggest that they are little more than placebos. I dont know where the answer is, but it isnt in any bottle of pills or alcohol. In fact, im pretty sure there is no 'answer' ,and that includes gentle Jesus meek and mild, the best we can do is lead a good life I suppose...
I'm going to try to find something positive in every part of my life from now on.
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Where is the best place in the world to live?
by highdose incould be just a whim, but highdoses feet are feeling itchy today.
i'm young, unattached was thinking about upping sticks again maybe.. .
can i get any recomendations from anyone?.
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bulgogiboy
New Hampshire has no income or sales tax?? Why doesnt all of America want to live there??
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Where is the best place in the world to live?
by highdose incould be just a whim, but highdoses feet are feeling itchy today.
i'm young, unattached was thinking about upping sticks again maybe.. .
can i get any recomendations from anyone?.
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bulgogiboy
France has been ranked number 1 in the best places to live list for at least a couple of times in a row now and its no surprise: good food and drink, nice weather, an excellent national healthcare system and beautiful sexually-liberated women . I've been to France about 6 times, and it's really nice. You would need to learn French fairly well if you wanted to live there for any length of time though, the French have as much patience for Brits/Yanks who can't speak their language as we have for them if they can't. I think Malta would be pretty nice too, even warmer sunnier weather, top-notch free healthcare, but they speak English.
Canada ranks well too, although depending on where you're moving from it might seem rather unexotic, especially if you are just moving over the border!
Switzerland has quite a few cities up there as well, I've only been there briefly (1 day to be exact!) but it did seem really lovely nonetheless.
The best way to find work is if you get a Cambridge English teaching certificate (CELTA) you'll be able to see quite a few different places with that, even more so if you have a uni degree or two, that's what I did!
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Does anyone else have a morbid obsession?
by bulgogiboy ini have to admit to having developed a very strong obsession with my own mortality in recent years, since breaking free from jw doctrine.
i think about death a lot, and if i really sit and think about it hard, i can freak myself out big time!
i dont want to think about it, and outwardly its not apparent to other people, but it is something that seems to pervade my thinking, something that haunts me.. perhaps i should be excited, because i realise that on the whole what i came to believe as a jw was fabricated, and maybe there is an amazing afterlife to experience, but at the same time i do tend to agree with jws about death being the end, i just dont agree with the whole resurrection claim they add on to it.. i have known two people who were temporarily 'dead' on the operating table, one of whom was dead for several minutes(one of these people is a friend who shrugs it off like it was nothing!).
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Hey, I'm 30, and thanks for your advice. I never pay attention to adverts like that so I didnt notice...
And I think that's more than 5 lbs of stomach fat between the two pics! More like 55!
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Proof of Rutherford as an alcoholic... where do i look
by Aussie Oz inwhere do i look for actual documented proof that rutherford was an alcoholic, and that he got it in from canada during prohibition?.
cheers.
oz.
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Aussie Oz: You arent being anal at all, I really commend your attitude towards finding out facts for yourself.
Not investigating facts stringently enough was what got me into shit with the jws in the first place, I therefore find it very hard to take things on authority. I feel like an ass believing in what may possibly be unsubstantiated hearsay or incorrectly recorded and correlated findings. Even if 100 of the world's greatest scientists tell me evolution is fact, I choose to remain skeptical, and that's not because I am anti-evolution or believe it's definitely untrue, it's simply because I know my personal level of knowledge is lacking in this area, and simply taking 'the experts' on their word makes me uncomfortable.
I dont think the average jw would give a damn if Rutherford was a boozehound, considering the nonchalant attitude towards binge-drinking in general within the jw org, but if it's for your own personal interest and finding out the truth about it helps you and/or your family in some way then good luck!
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Does anyone else have a morbid obsession?
by bulgogiboy ini have to admit to having developed a very strong obsession with my own mortality in recent years, since breaking free from jw doctrine.
i think about death a lot, and if i really sit and think about it hard, i can freak myself out big time!
i dont want to think about it, and outwardly its not apparent to other people, but it is something that seems to pervade my thinking, something that haunts me.. perhaps i should be excited, because i realise that on the whole what i came to believe as a jw was fabricated, and maybe there is an amazing afterlife to experience, but at the same time i do tend to agree with jws about death being the end, i just dont agree with the whole resurrection claim they add on to it.. i have known two people who were temporarily 'dead' on the operating table, one of whom was dead for several minutes(one of these people is a friend who shrugs it off like it was nothing!).
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I have to admit to having developed a very strong obsession with my own mortality in recent years, since breaking free from jw doctrine. I think about death a lot, and if I really sit and think about it hard, I can freak myself out big time! I dont want to think about it, and outwardly its not apparent to other people, but it is something that seems to pervade my thinking, something that haunts me.
Perhaps I should be excited, because I realise that on the whole what I came to believe as a jw was fabricated, and maybe there is an amazing afterlife to experience, but at the same time I do tend to agree with jws about death being the end, I just dont agree with the whole resurrection claim they add on to it.
I have known two people who were temporarily 'dead' on the operating table, one of whom was dead for several minutes(one of these people is a friend who shrugs it off like it was nothing!). Both these people claim they saw and heard nothing, as if they were asleep. This tends to be how I view death. It terrifies me. Is this terror of oblivion the true root of all religion? Is this what causes otherwise intelligent people to be hopelessly enveloped in fundamentalist denial?
Can anyone give me any words of hope and comfort that aren't Jesus-related? How can I best deal with this morbid obsession?