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  "Why are we Jehovah's Witnesses?"

  by Englishman in

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  2. friends

  this is straight from touchstone forum: http://www.touchstoneforum.org/.

  "why are we jehovah's witnesses?".

  let me approach the big picture from this angle.. jehovahs witnesses know that the christian organization that they are affiliated with has made errors in the past.

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  jerome

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  We are convinced.
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  Did you ever use to watch startrek the next generation.

  And you know that they were this alien race that used to fly around going from the DOOR of one solar system TO the DOOR of another in these cuboid ships.

  And they recruited members of all other intellegent spices into their race by assimilation.[indoctrination]

  Anyone who was unlucky enough to be caught by this race would be taken away and never be the same again.

  When they returned not even their own family ment as much to them as
  their new race they accuired the common objective to assimilate others or destroy those who resisted. No one was safe.

  That is of course until some of them were rescued and disassimilated/deprogrammed and returned to their normal selves.

  There was this one episode when one of them was captured and isolated from the hive. He took a while to come around but he finally did.
  But it took great effort.

  And you know what they used to say:

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  We are the Borg.
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  No matter who you asked in the army the reply was the same.
  We are the Borg. They were so unified on this matter. Like BROTHERS.

  Well the Borg had its high ranking offecers/elders which had more authority over the rest of the subordinates/rank and file but their orders came form one source their leader/queen.

  And what was their mission?

  Well to assimilate more species of course. They wanted to take over the universe.

  And what did the leader/queen of the borg say:

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  I am the borg!
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  Ok i'll come up with a more intellegent post next time.
  But i couldent let this go unmentioned in this post.

  the bible is a two edged sword
  wield it the wrong way and it you WILL cut yourself!
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  Spoke with a dub on ever changing doctrine...

  by stocwach in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i asked him how could it be the true religion with all the numerous doctrinal changes.

  this is how he replied to me in an email:.

  " another thing mentioned was the apostles (known as the governing body).

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  jerome

  this is one of the most helpful posts that i have ever read.

  when i first read the jw responce it seemed as thuugh they would have a point.

  but as always the strawman gets plucked to pieces and their argument is left in tatters.

  this pattern is so common they always seem to have the right idea on first glance but on close examination they have nothing.

  i will memorize this material for future refernce.

  great post.

  the bible is a two edged sword
  wield it the wrong way and it you WILL cut yourself!
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  Eternal Life on Earth?

  by Flaming Seraphim in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey do you guys really believe that we are going to live on a paradise earth forever and ever?

  if so, count me out.

  there is no way i want to spend the rest of eternity confined in physical body on this planet!

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  jerome

  there is one thing that i would like to see though that woulden't be so boring and thats

  here it comes

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  "A lion eating grass."
  

  the bible is a two edged sword
  wield it the wrong way and it you WILL cut yourself!
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  Center of the Bible

  by Lee Elder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is pretty strange or odd how it worked out this.

  even if you are not religious you'll enjoy this.. .

  what is the shortest chapter in the bible?.

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  jerome

  so then you could say split the bible down the centre and then you'll find the truth.

  the bible is a two edged sword
  wield it the wrong way and it you WILL cut yourself!
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  Do animals go to heaven?

  by master chief in

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  2. friends

  good question do animals go to heaven?

  i ask this because jws say to me they dont,only humans go to heaven they say "that sounds like crap to me" surely animals are precious to god as well as humans and think at least animals dont use humans to test on!!

  !and where does the bible say that animals dont get eternal life

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  jerome

  "rats go to the rat diva

  dogs go to the great over dog"

  you people have to stop it

  my stomach is hurting me from laughing too hard.

  and to think i almost did not read this thread.

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  you forgot to mention something.

  i saw a cartoon at the freeminds site where a cat was eating grass.
  [some of you may have seen this already]
  i could just imagine a lion roaring in the jungle and all of the trees trembel at his call
  then he hunts down a bunch of leaves or a fallen fruit.

  if animals dident do anything wrong then why do jws think that they have to be reconstituted?

  if they dident do anything wrong why did God change them from their orignal form?

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  the whole thing just makes me laugh sometimes the way you put it.

  wanna hear a secret i'm still laughing right now.
  can any of you keep a straight face when refering
  to a lion as
  "the knig of the plant eaters."
  i sure wouldent like to be a shrub right now.

  the bible is a two edged sword
  wield it the wrong way and it you WILL cut yourself!
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  when Dateline airs....then what??

  by gumby in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when dateline airs the pedophile segment....what will be the mindset of the jw who sees it?

  will this cause any significant stir amongst them?

  will this blow over as the voting issue did?.

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  jerome

  what did you say?
  how dare you do that!
  do it again and
  i'll give you a slap.

  is this almost always the case when you confront jws on their beliefs.
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  what did you say?
  [is there something wrong with Jehovahs organisation]

  how dare you say that!
  [who do you think you are to disrespect Gods organisation]

  say it again and
  [you beter becareful what you say or there will be trouble and you know it]

  i'll give you a slap!
  [i dont think jws dont give you a physicall slap but they would shure give you a psycological slap in the face by refusing to acknowledge you as a human being and shun you]

  this sounds so typical.

  the bible is a two edged sword
  wield it the wrong way and it you WILL cut yourself!
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  WTS quietly discarding end-times signs?

  by ozziepost in

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  2. friends

  back in 1995 a major change took place in the witnesses' 'understanding' of the generation that was foretold to see the end of the current 'system of things'.. no longer was it to be a literal generation that would see both the beginning of times of distress in 1914 and the culmination at armageddon.

  instead the wts claimed 'new light' in interpreting the generation as applying to whichever generation of people were alive to see the final end.. also in 1995 another change took place that did not receive the same attention and may have remained unnoticed by the rank and file witnesses.

  repeating a point already made in a watchtower issue of 1993, a new textbook to be used in the proselytising work (the knowledge book) was released.

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  jerome

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  the boys in writing are stupid but they arent dumb...

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  i'm sorry but i just couldent let that one go.

  the bible is a two edged sword
  wield it the wrong way and it you WILL cut yourself!
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  WT Time Keeping

  by Defender in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the society boasts about the billions of hours spent in the ministry worldwide.

  but, when one asks how many of those hours were spent visiting one sick or needy sister?

  the answer is zero.

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  jerome

  they actually count the time they spend talking to people in casual conversations?

  i thought that they only counted time when thy here going door to door.

  something seems wrong with that.

  the bible is a two edged sword
  wield it the wrong way and it you WILL cut yourself!
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  The word [other] in NWT

  by apostate man in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sorry this is so long, but here is a series of e-mails i sent to the jehovah's witnesses united site and their response.

  it has to do with the nwt inserting the word [other]in col 1:16,17 and phil 2:9. pick it apart as you may.

  you may need an hour or two to read all of it.. (my original e-mail).

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  jerome

  the above statement refers to circular reasoning

  i was always trying to get the concept in my head put into words

  thanks for putting it so simply.

  the bible is a two edged sword
  wield it the wrong way and it you WILL cut yourself!
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  The Matrix: A Prophetic Vision of the Borg?

  by Mindchild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is the matrix a prophetic vision of the borg?

  neo: right now, we're inside a computer program?

  morpheus: wild, isn't it?

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  jerome

  they probally do think that we are living in the matrix

  well its sure does make me think

  the bible is a two edged sword
  wield it the wrong way and it you WILL cut yourself!