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  Why Elders leave the Organization and why their Wives stay.

  by stuckinamovement in

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  i have talked to quite a few brothers who have served as elders and servants and left the organization.

  in most cases their wives have remained in despite the husbands best efforts to persuade his wife that the organization is wrong.

  even though the wife can see problems within they continue to press on in service to the society.

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  My wife and I were both baptized nearly 35 years ago. I would say that after a few years I began to be the driving force in our "spiritual progress". Eventually I became an elder and she was a regular pioneer. I think that I continually impressed upon my family the rightfullness of the "TRUTH". When my sister was disfellowshipped I refused to see her or let my children associate with her children. Now after all these years of encouraging them to believe in God's orginization they are supposed to forget everything I taught them and and believe it was a lie. Is it any wonder that there are some subjects that we just can't discuss. I don't blame them. I blame me.

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  Happy 12th birthday to JWD / JWN (us !)

  by Simon in

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  omg, today is the forum's 12th birthday !.

  omg x 2 - i said the word 'birthday' and no-one was beheaded !

  lol.

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  I rarely post, however I read many of the threads several times a week. As a fader with a wife and daughter that are devoted to the watchtower, JWN helps me cope. Much cheaper than therapy. Also I learn so much by following the different discussions. I am beginning to believe that I can reason on facts rather than supposition. Thanks to all who make this possible.

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  magazine supply reduction

  by agent zero in

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  at the meeting tonight was read a letter to all congregations in canada.

  it explained that since most publishers end up with left-over public edition magazines that didn't get placed at the end of each month, they will now no longer continue to have an individual magazine order per publisher.

  instead, the entire congregation's supply of service edition magazines will be in a stack at the back of the kh, and they are to be taken according to need, with whatever is left over after service to be put back in the stack.

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  How can you report 30 magazine placements if your order is only 10.

  Now the placements can go up and the orders can go down. Genius

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  Resigned

  by Franklin Massey in

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  i finally resigned as an elder.

  my conscience wouldn't allow me to continue.

  i've battled for years trying to reconcile the fallacies of the wt society with my own personal beliefs.

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  Franklin the consideration you extend your wife and others is commendable. And it sounds like she reciprocates that consideration. I stepped down 7 years ago and though I know it has been upsetting to my wife we still have a very good relationship. I attend only one meeting a month and have not been in Field service for over two years. She does not attempt to impose her belief system on me(even though it was previously ours) and I am careful not to say things that would upset her.

  We have managed to still have mutual friends. Last week went to dinner with CBOE and his wife and had a fine time. I attend meetings with my daughter when she is in town(twice a year). I have only one friend that I can speak reasonably freely with and we are very close to him and his wife. I like many of the brothers and sisters and do not feel I have to save them from the watchtower. Just as there are certain people I will not discuss politics with because of their political fervor, there are also those that I will not discuss religion with, which I guess is just about everybody.

  I wish you a succesful fade if that is your wish, a continued happy marriage, and many friendships both old and new.

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  The friction that results from change should be lubricated with kindness
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  Just wondering ....

  by talesin in

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  there are many new posters here, and i'm very interested to learn why you chose your screen names.. .

  one book i read, the mists of avalon, was very important to me.

  among the main characters was merlin, who in the book, was called "taliesen".

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  former elder who shined as a company man
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  Another JW-Facebook post-Homosexuality

  by Lunatic Faith in

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  god these people piss me off!

  i am literally shaking.

  and since i like others to share my animosity, here you go:.

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  If homosexuality is a mental illness then is schizophrenia a sin. How can they be held accountable if they are mentally ill.
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  Wow, This is Getting Tougher!

  by Franklin Massey in

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  i'm having a really hard time giving my meeting parts.

  i had a service meeting part this week and i could hardly get through it.

  i am no longer convinced of some of the things jws teach and so i try to either eliminate those things from my parts, or reword them so that i'm not speaking about that which i do not personally believe.

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  Franklin,

  I stepped down after 17 years as an elder prior to my awakening. On the TMS I have found that I enjoy giving the talks if I never use the WT publications in preparing it. This way the information it is not just a rehash of old info. I think the congo enjoys hearing topics presented in a new and interesting way. Of course I have to be careful not to say anything to wild. Now I am down to about one meeting a month and only giving bible readings. But no one counsels me and I never bring the TMS book. I like visiting with a few friends there and tolerate the meetings to acossiate a little. I understand why they are the way they are and like many of them in spite of it. But I don't think I would be able to just regurgitate the WT line anymore.
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  An Open letter to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses (Elders/ Ex-Elders)

  by stuckinamovement in

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  if you are an elder or an ex-elder please add a comment.

  i hope that the governing body will see this.

  it is too bad it has to be on an anonymous forum.

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  wasastar

  I was told that we were spiritual shepherds, but I was turned into a policeman. I passed judgment on peoples lives and some were forever changed. Now, I can't have an honest discussion about damn near anything with my brothers and sisters ,including members of my own family, without fear of reprisal should my view reflect negatively on the organization. So much for the promised freedom.
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  Flirting - WT style (Sept 15 WT)

  by undercover in

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  in the september 15th wt koolaid edition, the study article "christian unity glorifies god" in paragraph 10 this is stated:.

  "the immoral world in which we live threatens our unity.

  people joke about fornication, sing about it, watch it for entertainment, and practice it either in secret or openly.

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  I think you have it all wrong. He is a worldly married man on the prowl. She cannot be a worldly girl because there is no cleavage. She is a poor innocent and naive witness girl about to be taken advantage of by a handsome smooth talking married man. If only she wouldn't respond to his cheesy smile. Poor girl, now a child out of wedlock and probably a life of prostitution.

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  How many Elders does it take to change a light bulb?

  by karter in

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  ??????????????

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  The local elders may not proceed without first contacting the RBC. The RBC will schedule a visit to the Kingdom Hall. A local building and repair committee will be appointed. This will generally be comprised of those without any experience in changing light bulbs, however they do love the spot light. This committee will then make a recommendation to the BOE regarding this change. After multple meetings and hours of useless discussion the BOE will present a resolution to the congregation. Which the congregation WILL PASS. The RBC will appoint someone to assist the BOE in preparing a budget for this project. After nearly a year the budget will finally be approved by the congregation.

  Now the project can be scheduled. Likely this will be at least six months in the future. At that time several semi skilled bulb changers will travel 300 miles to complete the task. The completed project will be praised as a modern miracle and of the highest quality, though in reality it is mediocre.

  The project will undoubtedly be at least 6% over budget. This will result in years of correspondence with the branch to resolve this issue. By the time this is completed the congregation will have shrunk by 40% and will be absorbed into another hall. The Kingdom Hall will now have to be sold. However before this can be done anothe bulb needs to be replaced.

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