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Posts by pirata
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Two possible reasons why some elders stay in the organization.
by Iamallcool indo you think some elders stay in the organization just because of prestige and getting horny at some judicial committee meetings?
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New Curcuit Overseer Brainwash Talk....Obey the Slave even if you find a serious Flaw in JW Doctrine
by foolsparadise inhttp://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/media/circuit-overseer-5-15-11.mp3.
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brainwashing at its best here.
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After the talk cuts out you can hear the "KH conf" system, which is used to tie congregation members into the meetings by telephone.
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New Curcuit Overseer Brainwash Talk....Obey the Slave even if you find a serious Flaw in JW Doctrine
by foolsparadise inhttp://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/media/circuit-overseer-5-15-11.mp3.
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brainwashing at its best here.
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Darn, they cut the talk before the end.
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New Curcuit Overseer Brainwash Talk....Obey the Slave even if you find a serious Flaw in JW Doctrine
by foolsparadise inhttp://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/media/circuit-overseer-5-15-11.mp3.
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brainwashing at its best here.
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Crazy Stuff. Thanks!
Does anyone know the name of the Circuit Overseer?
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"Jesus did not die on the cross" (Gunnar Samuelsson)
by Titus in"jesus did not die on the cross" .
a new doctoral dissertation in theology from gothenburg university claims that the bible has been misinterpreted when it comes to how jesus died.
gunnar samuelsson who wrote the dissertation has studied the original texts and sees no explicit references to crucifiction.
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Nebraska Nada, leave Titus alone. He was a good guy.
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How do I help my best friend who just told me he is gay?
by justwantohelp ina little background for you.... my best friend (a 44 year old baptised jw with a wife & 2 preteen boys) told me a few days ago that he is gay.
to me, not a big deal as i am also.
but, he is so tormented by this with regard to his relationship with god.
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I know a brother who is gay, but single. Most in the congregation did not know, just the elders I believe. He suppresses it and is treated as kindly as anyone else in the congregation.
As long as the brother is willing to suppress his gay sexuality, he is welcome in the congregation. But if word gets out, there is more than likely to have gossip go around the congregation. Not all members are as understanding as others. As an aside, when the Watchtower classifies pornography for elders to see if someone has looked at unclean or grossly unclean pornography, both gay and straight pornography is put in the unclean (but not grossly unclean) category as long as it is between consenting adults of legal age.
If he wants to explore his gay sexuality, then he will be disfellowshipped. Homosexuality is considered a sexual sin, as are fornication and adultery.
There are no "support groups" per se in the JW religion.
But I am more worried about his wife and family, and really don't have any insights on that kind of situation.
Was he suppressing his gay sexuality at the time he got married?
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Real Jehovah's Witnesses (djeggnog, StandFirm, etc), I'm trying to understand you.
by pirata ini'm an active jehovah's witness.
i've obviously lost my faith, that's why i don't feel bad posting here anymore.
i'd probably be disfellowshipped as a division causing, teaching, apostate, faster than you can say "maher-shalal-hash-baz" (isaiah 8:1), should it be found out that i was posting here and did not repent of the things i've said and stop participating in this forum.
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@Wontleave: Some back-stabbing, judgmental false brother/sister is with us, watching our every move, just hoping for a chance at glory by turning us in to the elders. JWs police each other; the prisoners are their own guards and every JW knows better than to trust any other JW, because the collective is truly their god.
@Wontleave, JWs are not lying in wait, ready to turn in each other for "glory". I talked to one brother who turned in another brother recently, and he felt really bad about it, but did so out of obligatoin and concern.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-15-2011 WT Study (NEAR)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 05-15-2011 wt study (march 15, 2011, pages 12-16)(trust god/end near).
review comments will be headed by comments.
wt material from today's wt will be in black.
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Any JW, please help- I need just one thing!
by moshe in--the name of a real live (not dead) member of the faithful and discreet slave class- someone who has admitted in public they are one of the f&ds and who can verify they have been providing the "meat in due season" for the governing body.
obviously the gb can't be the f&ds, because they are neither discreet nor do they have a position of servitude- no, they have made it plain they are the bosses over jws and jws have to obey their words, as if jehovah and jesus were speaking them, or else they will get the disfellowshiped.
just one verifiable name will do and how you obtained it.. the governing body claims that the f&ds are directing them and the worldwide work of jws, but they have never proven that they have a f&ds class they communicate with- just have one of the annointed call bethel and ask to speak to one of the gb and see what the switchboard operator does with their call.
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The Watchtower states that that those who provide the deep spiritual food currently live in Brooklyn:
(WT July 15, 2010) When the time comes to clarify a spiritual matter in our day, holy spirit helps responsible representatives of “the faithful and discreet slave” at world headquarters to discern deep truths that were not previously understood. (Matt. 24:45; 1 Cor. 2:13) The Governing Body as a whole considers adjusted explanations. (Acts 15:6) What they learn, they publish for the benefit of all. (Matt.10:27) As time goes on, further clarifications may be needed, and these too are honestly explained.
This is just a guess, but I think this is a member of the faithful slave. I know he lives in Brooklyn:
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An Intro and apology.
by Slidin Fast ini have been an avid reader on this site for a few years and have weighed in on a few topics and introduced a few more without introducing myself.
for this i apologise.
the main reason for my reticence is that being a second generation born in but having been baptised in the 50s i will find it difficult to make an introduction without giving the game away.
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Slidin Fast, a belated welcome!
If you're intro is late, mine is really late. I still haven't made one yet and probably cannot for a long time.