When I was in the Borg I was miserable, plus the last few years of being in nearly broke my marriage.
So am I happier? Hell yeah!
So life isn't perfect that's ok at least when things go wrong I no longer think I am being punished or tested.
witnesses say that when people leave "the truth", they get involved in a debauched life, misery, and general unhappiness.. they give experiences of some that left the "sweet fellowship" of the "brotherhood" and the awful results because of it.
then, they come back and their lives change 100% for the better!.
have you found life to be miserable and unproductive since "leaving jehovah"?.
When I was in the Borg I was miserable, plus the last few years of being in nearly broke my marriage.
So am I happier? Hell yeah!
So life isn't perfect that's ok at least when things go wrong I no longer think I am being punished or tested.
is it possible in jw land?.
my family notices that i am uncomfortable around jw's at this point..... i keep telling them that i like the people, but i know what comes along with being "friends" with jw's....its conditional, unless you get someone who is willing to be your friend on the "down-low".
also, the conversations always center around congregation activities, organizational bs, etc......... i was at a gathering a while back, and it was hard to find a group discussing something "normal" .
I like some of the people in the Borg, couldn't care less about others and there are one or two I hate, but that’s another thread.
How I express it is that on the whole I have as little to do with the Borg as possible, but still talk to and am friendly towards the JWs I like. By my actions people can see how I feel.
I am done pretending everything is ok when it clearly isn’t JW land.
Terry, I am sorry to hear about how you were abandoned it still makes me angry and sad when I read experiences like yours. We think these people are our friends and they abandon us without a second thought. At least in the end we have the last laugh.
i thought this was good:.
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http://loveyourchaos.tumblr.com/post/505826969.
Sorry to bring this up but wasn't Satan the instigator of sin and because man sinned he dies so therefore Satan is responsible in part for all the human deaths from Adam onwards even the ones God killed as a result of their sin.
i have noticed a lot of newbies lately.
(i also noticed that after being absent for a year happy1975 is making a return visit.).
so, if you are a brand spanking newbie, post here and tell us a little about your interests, your state, your new direction in life, your favorite things, whatever you want to say---this is your thread.. .
Hi everyone
I was born-in to a family with a JW mum and a nonbelieving dad so grew up fairly confused. For the early years I had birthdays and Christmas, but then it suddenly all stopped which I found heart breaking.
I love my mum very much and probably for her sake I tried to be a good JW, but I really didn't have the heart for it. In my early 20's I started dating a non JW (Spawn) who I married so that pretty much ended my being a JW for a while. However, as I said I loved my mum and so after a few years my hubby and I started going to a few meetings and eventually started studying as a couple.
So here I was back in the JW fold, however, I still couldn't make it work any better than before. In 2006 I had my first son and as many new mums will understand found getting to meetings hard. Both hubby and I did not want to take the baby out at night and then there were problems in the cong. I could not understand why Jehovah would allow such hypocracy.
The final straw came when my eldest sisters husband was made a Elder despite us voicing concerns about his abusive behaviour. We never went to another meeting after that. For a long time I thought it was just our cong, but a conversation last Dec changed that.
My son was now 3 and I was expecting my second child and planning a big Christmas celebration the first in years. The pre-school nativity had just happened and my son had proudly played a shepherd. Then I got a call from one of my sisters (I have 3) she was concerned that if my eldest sister found out my son had been in the nativity that she would have grounds for me to be dissfellowshiped. After I told her I didn’t care it transpired that she and her hubby had doubts and were actually fading from the Org.
Thanks to them I was directed to this site and found all you fab guys and gals. It was truly a light bulb moment and though I have my wobble days on the whole life is good. I feel free to be myself without the JW label and that is a wonderful feeling.
my doorbell rang about 30mins ago, standing out side was a 30 somthing man and a very very young boy.
the young boy mumbled and stuttered and limply waved about a awake magazine at me.
i told him i wasn't interested because his religon had a bigger child abuse problem than the cathloic church, the difference is jw's cover it up better.
Save who we can shame who we can't.
found an interesting page on marriage today: http://www.mysedonawedding.com/ideas.php?articleid=40&&catid=1.
rings - pagan.
veil - ward off evil spirits.
Just more of the GB picking anf choosing which hoops to make JWs jump through.
How they must have laughed.
1 john 4:2 - whoever does not love does not know god, because god is love.. .
what does the statement "god is love" mean?
well quite simply that god = love.
Don't ask questions if you are not prepared to accept the response with good grace and respect.
Plus shouting at people with bold or capitalised text is just rude.
1 john 4:2 - whoever does not love does not know god, because god is love.. .
what does the statement "god is love" mean?
well quite simply that god = love.
As the question was levelled at Christians and Non-Christians you must allow for different interpretations of love and not rely completely on scriptural reasoning.
It’s not a pop quiz with only one right answer and gold star for teachers pet. My pagan leanings tell me that hate can be part of love and that all emotions both good and bad stem from the supreme emotion of love either by a lack or excess. For example white light is similar to love being made up of a wide spectrum of different colours as love is made from a wide spectrum of emotions.
There seems to be a lot of JW thinking still here, let yourself and your minds be free and open.
1 john 4:2 - whoever does not love does not know god, because god is love.. .
what does the statement "god is love" mean?
well quite simply that god = love.
God we are lead to believe is the personification of love, but is still capable of hate. So is it really possible to be love and feel hate at the same time?
YES
Hate does not equal evil in fact it could be argued that hate is actually a facet of love. For example someone can be motivated by love to acts of hate e.g. the killing of a love rival or even war to defend the country they love.
Perhaps in truth we need to look again at what we understand and mean by the term love. It is I think more complex than we realise full of extremes of emotion both good and bad.
what are their first names?.
mine are henry and daisy, thomas and katherine.. sylvia.
Mine were Ivy and Arthur and Florence and John.
That's another John for you Sylvia.