Posts by TTWSYF

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Does hell exist?

by notverylikely in

thread for nasticanasta to have at with proof that it does..

Everlasting punishment is a myth and a lie invented by Satan. Hell is merely mankind's common grave. And it is assuredly not a fiery torture. Hell is a place where the dead are conscience of nothing, obviously feeling no pain. Thus Christiandoms's doctrine of hellfire is unbiblical. LET GOD BE TRUE 1952 PGS 88-99 AND REASONING FROM SCRIPTURES 1985 PGS 168-175

Everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels [Matt 25;41]

while still alive, they both [the beast and the false prophet] were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur, where they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever [Rev 20'10]

Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water to cool my tongue, because I am in anguish in this blazing fire [Luke 16;24]

Where the maggot does not die and the fire is not put out [Mark 9;48]

weeping and gnashing of teeth [Matt 8;12]

hmmm, it seems that hell is a biblical concept, doesn't it? Sure, it's meaning has changed from just the land of the dead to different levels of joy and suffering from the dead, but clearly, hell is a biblical concept. Check the good book for yourself. Jesus actually spoke more of hell than of heaven. Some things were brought to more light after the good news was proclaimed.

Cheers

dc

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"The Truth will set you Free!"

by wannabe in

"the truth will set you free!".

" to everyone outside of their organization it is a "sealed book.

" "not open to the understanding of anyone else?

TTWSYF

The anti - scripture rhetoric reminds me of some JW position I once read that said 'The bible couldn't have meant that' even though it's right there in scripture. If you believe in God's word, how could you think that you could know better than He?

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"The Truth will set you Free!"

by wannabe in

"the truth will set you free!".

" to everyone outside of their organization it is a "sealed book.

" "not open to the understanding of anyone else?

TTWSYF

I always thought that Paul taught from the knowledge that he was given,[like the rest of the apostles]. Jesus himself adopted Paul as an apostle, didn't he? How can you argue against that?

ttwsyf

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my letter to the elders and governing body

by leftchica in

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to the elders of the maitland congregation and governing body of the watchtower tract.

and bible society,.

TTWSYF

Great letter....What did you find about 1st century Christians that you didn't know?....what's next now?

dc

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1 Corinthians 7:12, Paul states, "I, not the Lord", vs. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 and "all scripture" being inspired.

by miseryloveselders in

there's different translations regarding the corinthian text, but i pasted the new living translation 2007" version as its the most colorful.. now, i will speak to the rest of you, though i do not have a direct command from the lord.

if a christian man has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to continue living with him, he must not leave her.. so paul highlights the fact that he's speaking from his view in this letter.

on the other hand we have paul's letter to timothy which goes, "all scripture is god-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17so that the man of god may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

TTWSYF

Doesn't scripture say 'what God has brought together, let no one pull apart'. Sorry, I don;t have the book, chap and verse, but I'm sure it rings a bell. I know that there are other scriptures indicating that husbands and wives can decide to leave each other, but no one should tell a person to leave their husband or wife. IMHO of course.

dc

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Would Jesus Really Have Observed Passover?

by cameo-d in

would jesus really have participated in observing a passover ceremony which honored moses and the mass murder of egyptians?.

TTWSYF

Great John painting Burn. I remember hearing that story before, but forgot it's source. Do you know?. Is it in scriptures or one of the church fathers?

dc

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Would Jesus Really Have Observed Passover?

by cameo-d in

would jesus really have participated in observing a passover ceremony which honored moses and the mass murder of egyptians?.

TTWSYF

Hi all

I just came upon this post and wow~Holy cow Cameo-D. You actually believe this crap that you're saying against the wisdom of God! Sure, the slaves were having a good old time building Pharoes' cities. Yes, they had to eat things that were bitter for rememberance of the truth. And if you don't like Jesus's look in a painting, then I gotta ask, What did you think of the Ark of the Covenant design? Paganism?!

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"If anyone LOVES me, he will keep my word..."

by AGuest in

jw
friends

to the household of god, israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

when i was first directed to this "city" 9 years ago, it was with a very purposeful message.

if a man loves me, he will obey my commandments and my father will love him, and we will come to him... and make our abode with him.

TTWSYF

Mall Cop, I feel bad to read such a sad reply. If you are a Christian and believe in the bible, yet cannot love Jesus Christ because you don't know him.....that's just sad. I believe he knows you and has counted every hair in your head.

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What is the Biblical Support for Observers at the Memorial ???

by RubaDub in

i have never gotten a good answer for this questions from any other jw's other than "everyone was of the annointed back in the first century" or "we are showing our respect for the arrangement" or some other nondescript comment.. even the notion that we "celebrate" the memorial is not accurate since the "celebration" part is limited to 8 or 9 thousand people and the 15 million or so that attend are merely observing or watching.. is there some other biblical support for people to observe the celebration ???

in all my life as a jw, i still don't quite understand the significance of it from a biblical persective.. rub a dub .

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TTWSYF

Is that what you did TT? I mean, really, how would you know? Sounds like more party line propaganda from the 'Watchtower' or 'Awake' then from any real experiences.

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Should I believe in the Trinity?!

by TTWSYF in

hello all, i had some questions regarding the booklet 'should you believe in the trinity?

' i should mention that i'm a catholic and my brother is a jw baptised some 15-20 years ago.

since he found 'the truth' he had been quite vocal regarding the manyu, many false teachings of the catholic church.

TTWSYF

Thank you TT, it's all so clear now.... but what does that comment mean?!