Posts by TTWSYF

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A Question About Satan (For Those Who Believe In The Bible)

by Philadelphia Ponos in

when the bible mentions satan do you believe it's speaking of a paticular indivuial or is the term satan used for multiple people?

to be more specific, do believe the satan that tempted eve, told david to take a census, tested job, and tempted jesus are the same person or 4 different people?.

TTWSYF

Really Larsinger38? Satan was Michael's wife? The bible specifies that angels are neither male nor female and they do not have spouses. As for Jesus being Michael, you could look to what the scriptures say and I quote from the NWT for your benefit. I personally like how the WTS uses capital letters in their 'version'.

IS 9; 6 For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

You may have been joking with your post, I don't know...if you were...good one!

dc

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October 21, 2011 (THE END OF THE WORLD) Starts When First?

by blondie in

jw
friends

if you are closest in time and place, call me and let me know if it starts........................

TTWSYF

"The date October 21, 2011 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914," (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262).

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Why would God be racist?

by mankkeli in

in the old testament, can you think of any conceivable reason that an all knowing all powerful god might logically select one small desert tribe in the desert to be his "chosen" people, and leave all the other races of the world out?

isn't that a bit racist?

i mean, he did not choose chinese people, or african people, he specifically chose the jews, and at least as far as i've seen in the narrative, he pretty much lets them treat everyone else however they like.. .

TTWSYF

Discuss if interested.

I know, I know, that's what we're doing

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Why would God be racist?

by mankkeli in

in the old testament, can you think of any conceivable reason that an all knowing all powerful god might logically select one small desert tribe in the desert to be his "chosen" people, and leave all the other races of the world out?

isn't that a bit racist?

i mean, he did not choose chinese people, or african people, he specifically chose the jews, and at least as far as i've seen in the narrative, he pretty much lets them treat everyone else however they like.. .

TTWSYF

Interesting post and segway to Jews in particular. It has me thinking of a question that I heard a couple of weeks ago. I never thought of this question before it was asked, but since it was asked, I have been struggling with the reality of the answer.

Question- Is the racism [anti-semitism] against the Jews from a supernatural source?

Before you flippantly dismiss the notion that it is a possiblity, find in history anywhere a circumstance of racism that has lasted thousands of years in thousands of different lands. I know of only one race [or religion]. Discuss if interested.

Respectfully,

dc

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Why Arguments and Debates on the Trinity are a Waste of Time

by AllTimeJeff in

this isn't meant to be a shit stirring topic, just a thought or two, a memory really, from my jw days.

because i know i have more experience then most on debating the veracity of the trinity..... there are two camps, people of faith, and people of math.. people of faith will always be more convinced of the trinity every day, because for the most part, the teachers of the trinity are very up front about the fact that it is a mystery.. so the more you point out how illogical it is, the more a mystery the trinity becomes, and thus, it also becomes more real.

awesome!

TTWSYF

Why Arguments and Debates on the Trinity are a Waste of Time?

Easy answer. Because those here who deny the trinity will not even acknowledge the scriptural proofs that totally contridict THEIR beliefs. And rather than trying to reason away the scriptural proofs, they simply ignore them and hope that they go away. When these proofs are not addressed, these people think that they can just continue to lie to themselves. And they do with other like minded, brain washed burnouts.

There are many here who claim to know the WTS is full of crap, but at least they got the trinity thing right. What crap.

What scriptural truths am I talking about? Well there are too many for me to list here, but I give some examples of scriptures that make these anti trinitarians throw other scriptures up and never, ever address the very valid scriptures in question.

IE Isaih 9;6 Young's Literal Translation
For a Child hath been born to us, A Son hath been given to us, And the princely power is on his shoulder, And He doth call his name Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace.

Now some moron will write "see, it says mighty god, not almighty god' Let me answer that reply now. This states explcitly that Jesus is God.

Another common bs argument is that Jesus never claimed to be God. Well scripture states the opposite doesn't it?

ie John 5;18 Young's Literal Translation
because of this, then, were the Jews seeking the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the sabbath, but he also called God his own Father, making himself equal to God.

Notice the bible states that Jesus was making himself equal to God, not they 'thought' he was making himself equal to God. Another one is

ie John 10;33 Young's Literal Translation
The Jews answered him, saying, 'For a good work we do not stone thee, but for evil speaking, and because thou, being a man, dost make thyself God.'

Pretty plain to see that the Jews with Jesus knew what he was saying, but these WTS 'bible students' can't understand the plain truth written explicitly and clearly.

An answer to the 1+1+1=3 thing could be explained like this - past+present+future=time. Sure you can have a 'block' of time by removing any one or two of the past, present or future, but you would not have the fullness of time, would you?

Don't want to leave too long of a post, but I agree, debates with this crowd is one sided.

respectfully,

dc

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Watchtower defiance against Hitler

by The Quiet One in

watchtower october 1, 2011 page 14 'did hitler receive letters of protest from church officials concerning the outrager perpetrated by the national socialists, or nazis?

there were some, but such letters were few and far between.

in the moscow archives, however, eberle found a file containing a number of letters sent to hitler by jehovah's witnesses..protesting against the conduct of the nazis.

TTWSYF

But did the Watchtower stand defiantly against Hitler with the rank and file?

The answer is NO. Thanks for the link!

I've had this discussion with my koolaid drinking JW elder brother. I showed him the copy of the yearbook from 1933 and how the watchtower still, consistantly lies about what happened. He still speaks of the JWs showing a force of political neutrality. What a brain washed simpleton.

dc

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The New World Translation Quote from an Elder

by howdidtihappen in

you've probably heard this before, but at a meeting last night the elder called the nwt the "rolls royce" of bibles.

i'm new to the jw bs (and as soon as i can break away, will do so.

) but do they also believe they have a superior bible to anyone elses outside the religion?

TTWSYF

Wonderment- is there any current true scholar [phd at least] who agrees with the watchtower position in regards to John 1;1 , or are they all 19th century armchair translators who had other professions?

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The New World Translation Quote from an Elder

by howdidtihappen in

you've probably heard this before, but at a meeting last night the elder called the nwt the "rolls royce" of bibles.

i'm new to the jw bs (and as soon as i can break away, will do so.

) but do they also believe they have a superior bible to anyone elses outside the religion?

TTWSYF

The fact that it is not even accepted as a legit translation by ANY scholastic organization speaks volumns about the corrupt nature of the NWT version of the Holy Scriptures. Words added, changed and/or removed make it a version, not a translation.

dc

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Thank You for Your Service?

by Liberty93 in

thank you for your service?by laurence m. vance.

recently by laurence m. vance: the warmongers lexicon.

it is without question that americans are in love with the military.

TTWSYF

What has a military done for you lately?

If you're an american, they went across the world to get Osama Bin Laden for attacking and killing thousands of people on our own land.

How about pirates from Somalia that have attacked/hijacked/killed innocents on the high seas?. Just to name two recent things.

The world is filled with threats and they must be addressed or tyranny would rule. Notice that we are speaking english instead of german or japanese?

Oh, 70 years ago is ancient history perhaps? I don't think so. So yes, I thank those who give up their constitutional rights to protect ours.

It takes balls to join the military and it takes fortitude to finish the commitment.

Thanks to all

dc

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Told my Parents about me joining the Military.

by lucky1rish in

so, i'm back, and many of you wanted me to post the unfolding drama that is my life at the moment.. last week i came out and told my father that i was in the navy, and was going to be trying out for aviation search air rescue.

it's an extensive rate, and one that has a 40% failure rate among those who qualify.

so needless to say, i do nothing but run and swim.. anyways, the reaction was what i expected.

TTWSYF

Congrats on your decision. I know that it is hard with folks who are so confused about the NEED of a military to protect us from tyranny. The world is filled with dangers from home and abroad and our military is there to protects us.

Perhaps when the chance to speak with your Dad comes up again, you can bring up Matt 8;10 when Jesus commends Cornelius, a Roman centurian, on his faith., an army officer, a man righteous and fearing God. As a matter of fact, Jesus, John the baptist and other prophets had plenty of opportunity to instruct those in the military to abandon their professions, yet it never happened once....go figure how the WTS came up with that one

Let me be one of the first to say 'Thanks for serving!'

sincerely,

dc