Posts by TTWSYF

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How many ex-jws poster here now believe in Hellfire, immortality of soul, trinity, etc;

by booker-t in

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friends

i am just curious about this because although i agree with many of the posters here that the wt society is guilty of many horrible deeds, i still believe they are right when it comes to doctrinal things as i mention.

especially hellfire.

i just don't see how anybody that has studied the bible for many years like many of the ex-jws here can make an about face and go back to believing hellfire.

TTWSYF

Hmmm. I am not an ex JW, but I am a bible believer.

First off- Jesus spoke more of hell then he did of heaven. He warned of an eternal hell. Remember the parable that the kingdom of heaven is like a king who settles accounts with his servants. He first deals with a man who owes him 10,000 talents and was unable to pay. When the man could not pay the master declared that he and his family would be sold off as slaves to repay the debt. The servant begged the king for mercy. The king felt pity and cancelled the debt out of his mercy only. Then the forgiven servant found another that owed him 10 talents and demanded to be paid. The other servant could not pay and the servant who had received mercy threw the other servant in jail. When the king heard about the servant that he'd forgiven he was angered. The king called the servant 'wicked'. The king seaid 'I cancelled all your debt because you begged me to. Shouldn't you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?

Jesus ended the parable saying that 'In anger his master turned him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he shgould pay back all that he owed. This is how the heavenly father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother from your heart'

See? Jesus says that the father will treat the unmerciful harshly.

just saying,

respectfully,

dc

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Why the GB secretly hates and fears the gospel above ALL else!

by Fernando in

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TTWSYF

Jesus Christ is the gospel; He is our life, our salvation, our righteousness... The is no one else to go to.

Well said Vanderhoven7!

dc

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Believers' Thread!!!

by snowbird in

jw
friends

peace, and love to you.

we are all in this together,to some, we're birds of a featherhowever, no matter what they say,we'll continue to watch, fight, and pray.

sylvia.

TTWSYF

I believe Syl!

I'm not ashamed to say that I believe that the Holy Bible is the word of God.

I believe every word of it, yet not in the 100% literal way, but in conjunction with science.

dc

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Does anyone here dream about demons?

by not bitter in

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friends

i do, every few months and the dreams are terrifying.

i had one last night and the demons grabbed me as usual and instead of shouting out big j's name like i usually do in these dreams (not out loud mind you) i shouted instead ''get away from me satan'' ha!.

i don't believe in either but obviously my fear of demons growing up as affected my subconscious into adulthood (i'm 40).

TTWSYF

Aside from childhood monster dreams, I have had 2 demon/devil dreams in the last 10 yrs. I am in my mid 40s. And they were terrifying being a grown up and not being in control as I often am when I dream.

I, on occassion, am lucid and aware that I am dreaming during dreaming, probably like many others too.

My first demon dream occured shortly after being 'born again'. I had it in me to pray for others much more than I had ever before and in my zeal of praying for others[ and in obvious ignorance] , I added the fallen angels to my prayers that they may also be redeemed and forgiven. ...........................That night I had the strangest dream and was shown many images of things over vast periods of time. I cannot remember the images of that dream, but I certainly remember the feeling. Dread.. I understood none of it except that such prayers were an offense to God. I stopped immediately such prayers.

My second demon dream occured after reading a book called 'Hostage to the Devil' [Malachi Martin] which contained 5 or 6 stories of recent documented demonic possession. He, being a writer, spun a very spooky read. I had a dream during that book where I witnessed a seemingly decent fellow get given to Satan, and Satan took him into a room and came out a few moments later with this man being turned into two seperate beings as like his soul was split in two and one body could walk and the other body being led like a servo motor control would be the speaking part and it repeated over and over 'what have you done to me?, what have you done to me?' This fellow looked like a futuristic nazi genetic nightmare gone bad. Once he had caught a glimps of himself in a mirror, he shreiked in me like nails down a chaulk board. Shortly after this shreik, the two bodies were changed into 2 german shepard dogs and I was made to understand that this was a blessing for this man. Better than eternity with Satan.

Those were quite creepy to me.

dc

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"some were led to believe that the end would come in 1975"

by Sour Grapes in

last week a young elder giving the public talk made.

the statement that "some were led to believe that the.

end would come in 1975, but aren't we so thankfull.

TTWSYF

My question is- Were some led to believe that the end would not come in 1975?

dc

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One Lord - One Savior : Get Used To It

by Perry in

jehovah in the old testament and jesus in the new testament are one and the same.. .

3. jehovah is salvation.

5. jehovah wants only himself to be worshipped.

TTWSYF

Hi Perry,

Good post with plenty of explicit scriptural proof texts supporting your position. And the same ol' group of doubters come out when this type of post comes out.

That said, it looks a little like your starting a fight. I know it's one sided because the bible states Jesus is God explicitly. No question about it. One scriptural proof that I did not see is from the Old Testament....and I quote from the NWT for those interested.

IS 9;6 For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

I like how the WTS uses capital letters in the titles of the child born. Looks like Perry's right guys.

dc

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My son was murdered today

by truman in

i have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.

i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.

maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.

TTWSYF

God bless you and your family Truman. I am so sorry to read how your son was taken from you so soon.

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"...baptizing them in the name of the Father and of Watchtower Society and of the holy spirit "

by irondork in

if baptism is really a symbol of one's dedication to god, as the wts agrees it is, then why would someone who was baptized years earlier need to be re-baptized after studying with jehovah's witnesses?

in discussing the two questions asked of baptismal candidates, the watchtower, april 1, 2006, page 22 par 4 says:.

therefore, those who qualify for baptism have usually studied the bible for months or even a year or two, so that their decision is neither hasty nor ill-informed.

TTWSYF

A number of years ago [like 20 or so] my brother and his wife were baptized into the WTS. I attended to support my bro with a camera and a big smile. I was surrounded by members who were trying to convert me or atleast encourage me to 'give it a try'. I was hounded so badly that I missed the ceremony and only got to take pics of my brother and sister in law exiting the dunking pool.

I was dissapointed but my brother seemed fine with it.

I now know why I was distracted by other members, for if I heard the baptism vows [in the name of the father, son and God's organization] I certainly would have protested to my family members. I didn;t realize until years after reading others speak of the JW baptism.

What a huge crock of shit the JW baptism is. No scriptural validity at all. Fuc--ng disgrace!

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Faith without works is dead?

by jemba in

jw
friends

my crazy brainwashed parents have devoted their lives to this cult, to the detriment of their children.

i recently told my mum that i needed to stop anything jw because of the anxiety and depression it has caused me for over 30 years.

she said 'oh well if thats what you have to do... but you know armaggedon is just around the corner and jehovah expects us to toe the line... faith without works is dead.'.

TTWSYF

Faith without works is dead. Yes, that is what the bible says.

It does not say that you are saved by works, but the exact opposite.

To me that means that once you have faith and have been saved then you DO works because of your faith. In other words, you have the true faith and feel compelled to do works weather volunteering at a food pantry, donate to good causes [alms] or just praying for others or perhaps other works that are hidden from others, but not from God.

respectfully,

DC

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WTF Jesus doing last 98 years?

by Evolutionary in

hey, i left when i was 19 about 21 years ago over evolution.

dad encouraged me to look up the references in _life: how did it get here?

by creation or evolution?_.

TTWSYF

Here is my prediction-

Jesus will return 2033, sometime around passover. That would be 2000 years since his sacrifice.

So if I'm right, I'm a true prophet, if I'm wrong, I'm the Watchtower, cause, you gotta admit that it's a good guess [or rather, as good as any other's]

signed, ttwsyf

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