"the transition zone can hold a lot of water, and could potentially have the same amount of h2o [water] as all the world's ocean.".
http://news.yahoo.com/found-hidden-ocean-locked-deep-earths-mantle-181204475.html.
i figured when people read this that there will be those claiming proof of the flood story.
I have seen photos of the shell of a large wooden ark on Mt Ararat from miles up over the course of years. Some years the glacier covers what could possible be an ark and some years the glacier is melted away a bit and an ark is clearly visible.
Sorry, I don't have a link, but if you google Noah's ark photos, you would be surprised [or at least I was]
i am a member of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, and i have written a heavily-documented response to the official magazine of the jehovah's witnesses, awake!, that claims to teach what we believe.
i saw an article from last year's watchtower about a guy who had barely been mormon for very long, and obviously did not know what we believe, who was given this magazine by jw's to show him "the truth.
" he claims to have proven to himself that it was true from information on the lds church's website.
Line from my JW elder brother, and I quote..
"we eat Mormons for breakfast"
What a moron....
i'm not a jw nor is my entire family save for my brother, his wife and kids.
we are celebrating our grandparents 50th anniversary.. one of my brother's kids is living with his girlfriend and as a result, the rest of his immediate {jw} family is shunning him.. what, if anything do you think that i could do or say to get his (jw) family to see how awful their behavior is?.
i am asking for suggestions to get these people to think.. .
Thanks Ignoranceisbliss, asking about suicides is a good start I think.
Finkelstein, good point. The couple is engaged and I don't really support their living together yet, but I'm glad they have plans and certainly I understand.
Ruderedhead-yes! Just another reason not to follow THE TRUTHtm
Satanus-good point, what's that called {common law spouse?} I think there must be several years of cohab before that kicks in though.
Sarasmile- I've been doing that for years with no results. Nothing seems to dislodge them from the WTS. Not false prophesies, false beliefs, doctrinal flip flops, etc, etc
Howthebiblewascreated- Just 30 more years to go :)
Thanks all!
ttwsyf
i'm not a jw nor is my entire family save for my brother, his wife and kids.
we are celebrating our grandparents 50th anniversary.. one of my brother's kids is living with his girlfriend and as a result, the rest of his immediate {jw} family is shunning him.. what, if anything do you think that i could do or say to get his (jw) family to see how awful their behavior is?.
i am asking for suggestions to get these people to think.. .
I'm not a JW nor is my entire family save for my brother, his wife and kids.
We are celebrating our grandparents 50th anniversary.
One of my brother's kids is living with his girlfriend and as a result, the rest of his immediate {JW} family is shunning him.
What, if anything do you think that I could do or say to get his (JW) family to see how awful their behavior is?
I am asking for suggestions to get these people to think.
Thanks,
The Truth Will Set You Free
TTWSYF
ok, so didnt jesus supposedly say "the end will come when you least expect it"?
(or words to that effect...).
so, with so many witnesses running around in an excited way talking about "100 years since the kingdom...etc" and "it may be our last chance to pioneer etc"..."may be the last international conventions".....doesnt this mean then that the end can not come now??!!.
Judgement day is the day I die.
That is when the theif is coming.
Possible, but highly unlikely scenarios include some cosmic collision, earthquake or volcano eruption that destroys all life on earth.
Because those are highly unlikely scenarios, how could you ever possibly expect (or worse) teach your children that is what we should expect?
If you knew before hand the crap that they believe, you would run them off of your property with a shotgun
....just saying...
ok, so didnt jesus supposedly say "the end will come when you least expect it"?
(or words to that effect...).
so, with so many witnesses running around in an excited way talking about "100 years since the kingdom...etc" and "it may be our last chance to pioneer etc"..."may be the last international conventions".....doesnt this mean then that the end can not come now??!!.
Mark 13;32 "But about that day, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven or even the son, only the father"
Just the typical fear inducing membership drive that the watchtower has promoted since it's inception (less than 150 years ago)
Amazing to me to hear any JWs say "where does the bible say that?" People coming to your door to talk about the bible, but really you talk about the watchtower and awake and say "get with our program or be destroyed"
just saying
an interesting read the emporia gazette: www.emporiagazzette.com.
the israelities needed moral codes, civil codes and holiness codes.. when the jews were getting ready to go to the promise land, god.
had to prepare them to become a nation.
The Bible is timeless and does not change, nor does the Father or Jesus. Of course... and hence Jesus was AOK with stoning homosexuals to death , of course not. He didn't want the Jews to stone the woman who was the adulterer right? Why? Because they would not have the chance to repent [probably]. If he is the judge, why would he want anyone to kill for him? Never happen. Just my opinion. Regards to all, DC
well, since the wtbts "litter-ature" has informed people almost 4000 times about "true christian/s", then it would appear that they must be the assigned experts to judge any hypocritical "wolves in sheep's clothing".. thank goodness the bible confirms that the fds has been given the privilege to say who is or isn't a christian!.
2 corinthians 5:10 says (probably in the new version of the nwt) "for we must all be made manifest before the judgment seat of the governing body, that each one may get his award for the things done through the body, according to the things he has practiced, whether it is good or vile.".
or in simple terms, it's like saying to christ, "don't worry yourself, we'll do the judging for you!!"..
I always thought that Christians were CHRISTIANS because they had the church of Christ. They worshipped the Christ the same as the Father.
Something about the name of Jesus being above any other name.
Think I read that somewhere......not in The Watchtower or Awake though..
the following is part of an email from a retired district overseer in the states.
(source private).
"the new bible will be released at the agm and i understand only two versions will be printed from now on.
Now THIS will be the MOST accurate bible ever. Scholars have been working round the clock checking and rechecking all of the biblical languages and cultural , geographical, and historical facts to get the most accurate translation ever!
Oh wait.....that's what all the other Christians churches do.
No scholars ever agree with the watchtowers VERSIONS....my bad
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i have talked to christians for years on this subject and they all seem more confused then ever.
some born agains have a hard time reconciling hellfire damnation with jehovah's loving personality.
the two just can't mix.
um, [in the bible] Jesus spoke more of hell then he did of heaven I believe.
just saying
Where would God let people go who hate him and want nothing to do with him?
Someplace far from God would make sense maybe
