Posts by TTWSYF
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Went to a Catholic Funeral Today
by Captain Schmideo2 init was for a dear friend of the family that i have known all my life.now, bear in mind that i was born and raised jw, so my experience with catholic ceremonies can be counted on three fingers, a wedding, a "regular" mass, and this funeral mass.once they got down to the actual speaking about the deceased, i felt emotionally involved, but prior to that, i was watching and had questions about aspects of the services (these i have seen in common for all three times i have been in an rc church):why the "sing-song" voice during the prayers?
does god hear it better if you sound all spooky tenor?i observe that every time a reading from one of the gospels takes place, it is preceded by a big musical number:"alleluiah!
alleluiah"( "and nowwwwwwwwwwwwwww, heeeeeeeeeeeeeere's jesus!".
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The singing songs were probably the psalms of David. They are always sung I think in keeping with the Jewish traditions. They try to sing anyway, not exactly top 10 melodies -
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"I just don't like being lied to"
by stuckinarut2 inso i dropped this comment to someone from "my" congregation...... "i just don't like being lied to".... this was in response to their attempt to become my 'bff' (i'm sarcastically using the expression 'best friends forever' here).
i ran into them in the street.
they started chatting all about the cong gossip, teachings, upcoming witness events etc.... i was just quiet and not really contributing to the conversation.. when she asked "so what's new with you?
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of course, I don't mean any disrespect to former/current JWs, just witnessing to the truth of what this CULT has driven people to do [or maybe not do] -
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"I just don't like being lied to"
by stuckinarut2 inso i dropped this comment to someone from "my" congregation...... "i just don't like being lied to".... this was in response to their attempt to become my 'bff' (i'm sarcastically using the expression 'best friends forever' here).
i ran into them in the street.
they started chatting all about the cong gossip, teachings, upcoming witness events etc.... i was just quiet and not really contributing to the conversation.. when she asked "so what's new with you?
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No one LIKES being lied to. It's amazing how many of us will accept it though even though we do not like it.
This issue is by far MY biggest with the WTS. To call something the TRUTH and then to promote 'Lying for the Truth' just boggles the mind. And that people will blindly accept such a thing and go door to door promoting it is beyond mind boggling.
just mho
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I've just been disfellowshipped!
by maksutov inapparently it was announced last night.
i was not informed (for 'legal reasons'), but they phoned my dad and told him.
i understand it is due to my apostate book.
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Born in JW AND wrote a book exposing the cult? Balls of steel. Good for you. Very sorry about the inevitable fallout. What does your family say? -
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For God/Truth Seekers Only!
by Nicola.threeangelsmessage infor the past three years, my husband and i have been watching these sermons by remarkable worldwide speakers.
the biblical truths we have learnt from their presentations, in such a short period of time most definitely tip the scales compared to the truth the jw.org led me to believe i had for over 20 plus years of my life.
thanks to these videos, we have now found the truth and the truth is jesus christ (john 14:6).
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Half banana16 hours ago
TTWSF, The Bible is an old collection of texts. First collated in the fourth century CE and therefore it might be said to be “historical” in its appearance in time. This does not make it historical in the sense that it is a ”history”, far from it! It is a collection of texts much doctored and edited to suit the propaganda of the users of the books even before their inclusion into the Bible by the Catholic Church. The source documents and stories for the Bible are mainly pagan and do not qualify to make a historian’s account of what is a proper historical record. This is because they are derivative and are not first-hand records by reliable witnesses.
Again, I respectfully disagree.
The 4th century confirmation of the books of the bible simply confirmed most of the books that were confirmed in the 1st and 2nd century. There is a copy of the gospel of John [fragments of a copy anyway] that dates with in 40 years of John's death. Also there were guidelines that were followed while compiling the bible. One was that the book had to be ancient. It had to be something that could be traced back historically. That is why books like the gospel of Mary or the gospel of Peter, gospel of Judas, etc. These books were not old enough to be considered.
Just saying.........that I believe the bible is the word of God
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For God/Truth Seekers Only!
by Nicola.threeangelsmessage infor the past three years, my husband and i have been watching these sermons by remarkable worldwide speakers.
the biblical truths we have learnt from their presentations, in such a short period of time most definitely tip the scales compared to the truth the jw.org led me to believe i had for over 20 plus years of my life.
thanks to these videos, we have now found the truth and the truth is jesus christ (john 14:6).
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cofty18 hours ago
TTWSYF - The evidence that we descended from a common ancestor of every other living thing is in every cell in your body. We even have Neanderthal DNA.
The first video in the OP is posited on a literal interpretation of Adam and Eve.
Cofty- we share common dna with sharks, frogs and snakes as well as most other prehistoric lifeforms. That does not mean that we were not created as we are. Do we evolve? I think so. We are a people who are growing larger and living longer. Are we directly evolved from neaderthals? There is no evidence to support that theory. It IS a theory. just saying.
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For God/Truth Seekers Only!
by Nicola.threeangelsmessage infor the past three years, my husband and i have been watching these sermons by remarkable worldwide speakers.
the biblical truths we have learnt from their presentations, in such a short period of time most definitely tip the scales compared to the truth the jw.org led me to believe i had for over 20 plus years of my life.
thanks to these videos, we have now found the truth and the truth is jesus christ (john 14:6).
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Half banana29 minutes ago
Nicola I feel so sad that you wasted so much time like many of us did as a JW... and then go on to waste your time in another similar unprovable delusion.
Where is the evidence that Jesus ever existed? How could he be the second Adam when Adam never lived? It's a story not a historical truth...it's a fantasy.
I disagree [respectfully]. With some top of my head proofs.
1st- There's the bible. it is an ancient historical book, The fact that [literally] billions of people consider it the 'word of God' does not erase or even decrease it's historical nature.
2nd- Jesus was put to death in a very brutal and pubic way some 2000 years ago. He was a man who claimed to be God and his followers claimed that he was God and as a result many thousands have [and do] die on that belief. I would have to think that when you are being tortured, you would quickly let go of any myths. Not THESE Christians. How would anyone explain such a thing?
Adam never existed. How does anyone really know? What I do know is that there is no link [genetically,] with modern man to any of the known 'cavemen'. By cavemen I mean a progression of advancements and or physical/mental improvements that DO have genetic links of progression through the eons. Hence, pigmies to cromagnum to neaderthal , etc etc can be genetically linked through fossils and skeletal remains, there is no such link to our modern species that has been discovered [or admitted to anyway]. This is my understanding of it anyway.
Adam being the 1st man with a soul according to Genesis could in fact be a literal revelation. And as far as time goes, who knows how long a day is in the life if God?
Just saying.......that I believe the bible is the word of God
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Jehovah's Witnesses ... Proclaimers of "soon, very soon" since 1879
by jwleaks inthe first edition of the watchtower magazine, july 1879, made the following comment on page 5 regarding how "soon" the end of this system will come:.
exactly 136 years later the latest edition of the watchtower magazine, july 2015, (paragraph 3) made the following comment on page 15 regarding how "soon" the end of this system will come:.
jehovah's witnesses ... proclaimers of "soon, very soon" since 1879.. .
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fulltimestudent9 hours ago
But isn't that the same deception that was used in early Christianity?
Yes, the cult of Jesus said no more feeding the poor or widows or orphans or any of that. Just wait on Jesus to return for the 144k
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Active JW's, can you defend "THE TRUTH?"
by DATA-DOG inas of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.
this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.
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Esse quam videri13 hours ago
misuueuem?OUTLAW28 minutes ago
As of yet, no member of the Jehovah's Witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
As of yet, no member of the Jehovah's witnesses can even know their ever changing unique beliefs. -
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JW Personality used as an excuse....
by Anon_SA1 ini had a discussion with a current jw member of +- 30 years, we got chatting about how you can be sure your faith is right and what checks can be done.
i then suggested looking at ex members view points and literature.
her response was her "i am not someone who takes initiative to look online at stuff, i doesn't feel my personality needs me look at outside view points" in summary she was saying her personality type is not interested in looking at other views.
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I agree with Oubliette. There's no such thing as a JW personality.
Now a JW mindset...that's different. There is definitely a JW mindset that shuts down instinctive reasoning and thinking. Or maybe is a JW non-mindset might be more accurate.