Posts by TTWSYF

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What's the difference between 'works' and 'fruits'?

by TTWSYF in

my uber jw elder brother used to use jesus's quote "you know a tree by it's fruit" and then would speak about how jws are the only ones going door to door and restoring god's true name.. my niece was the first to point out that those were works and not fruits.

my brother retreated for a few days to contemplate the difference between works and fruits and when he returned to address the comment, he stated that works are fruits.

what's the take from the jw apologist?.

TTWSYF

My uber JW elder brother USED to use Jesus's quote "You know a tree by it's fruit" and then would speak about how JWs are the only ones going door to door and restoring God's true name.

My niece was the first to point out that those were works and not fruits. My brother retreated for a few days to contemplate the difference between works and fruits and when he returned to address the comment, he stated that works are fruits.

What's the take from the JW apologist?

What's the take from the JW critic?

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I would rather be in the JW cult than the ex-jw cult

by questioningmyfaith in

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i have posted one other time on this website.

just for the mere fact that i wasn't anger and bitter and ready to declare the gb the sociopathic criminals that so many here ascribe to, my initial question digressed to bickering over ad hominem attacks against the gb and not my beliefs that i'm questioning.

some did give me some help on my questions.

TTWSYF

I must admit that I would rather be in the JW cult than some other cults like

Jonestown - Jim Jones kool aid death cult

Branch Davidians - that burned to the ground

Those folks that killed themselves wearing nikes waiting for a spaceship to carry them away.

Moonies

Krishnas.

So that is at least 5 cults that rank behind the WTS

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I would rather be in the JW cult than the ex-jw cult

by questioningmyfaith in

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friends

i have posted one other time on this website.

just for the mere fact that i wasn't anger and bitter and ready to declare the gb the sociopathic criminals that so many here ascribe to, my initial question digressed to bickering over ad hominem attacks against the gb and not my beliefs that i'm questioning.

some did give me some help on my questions.

TTWSYF

So is this something that the WTS teaches now? That they're the best cult around? A better cult than the educated TTATT cult?

Whatever...Good luck

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The JW org is a failed doomsday cult?

by Half banana in

by its own mandate in the founding of the watchtower magazine in 1879, it was set up to proclaim the arrival of jc in the heavens according to the then currently failed adventist claim for jesus' return the year 1874.. russell's catalyst for all that came afterwards was his pet claim (in so many words) "aha but jc did in fact come... but came invisibly!

" he added without sound evidence that it took four years for jc to come to rule from the heavens after his arrival there and that then was said to be in 1878. .

within forty biblical years from the arrival date, russell promised, with hopes even higher than his bank account, that god’s kingdom with christ at the helm would rule the earth in the absence of all worldly opposition.

TTWSYF

If the Watchtower is God’s mouthpiece and the "end time" its key doctrine; how could Holy Spirit repeatedly get the dates and the events always wrong, resulting in total failure during the whole 136 years of its 'divine' prophesying?
What conclusions can we draw?

That we shouldn't take stock market tips from the WTS

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I COLLECT QUOTES. . . Here are some of my favorites

by Terry in

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please post your favorites too.

my favorite quotations:.

you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.. don’t think of cost.

TTWSYF

a friend with weed is a friend indeed

There once was a man from Nantucket....

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

TTWSYF

depressed soul,

Sounds like you are looking for answers. You sound a little depressed.

Could I interest you in a free bible study?

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

TTWSYF

Formerbrother2 hours ago

So could somebody sum up in as short as possible,

What is the alternative to JWs?

Answer- Any faith [thru an organization] that actually produces real fruits that actually help people.

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Any weapons enthusiasts here?

by Wonderment in

i knew i had a couple of firearms around the house, and one in the car.

however, i didn't realize i had seven, yes, seven of them, when i proceeded to count them.

the reason for that is that i haven't gone to the shooting range in years.

TTWSYF

May I suggest a weapons safe?

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jw family loves to ask df'd ones for money!

by Ghiagirl in

well it finally happened!

we have been waiting about a year for this, my dfd husbands family asked us for money.

even though his own father hasn't met our 8 month old son.

TTWSYF

Yes, Yes, Yes! My family must endure the same effing behavior. One sibling became a baptized JW. Since that has happened he has had great fiscal decline and lose. Had homes, took vacations, nice things and then let everything go waiting for Jehovah to end this evil system of things.

My folks have had to bail him and his family out continuously. He cannot connect the dots between his lack of blessings and his clouded cult based decisions regarding his future.

But, when you're family, it's hard to give tough love. We all want our loved ones [even if they're delusional], to have a soft landing as opposed to a crash landing.

My thoughts and prayers are with you Ghiagirl

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Actions speak louder than words

by Sabin in

gday to you all.

i have had a thought i would like to share with you.

i cannot remember who it was, but i believe it has been mentioned (maybe paul grundy) that if you wish to null & void your baptism because you were so young when it took place that the wtbts will not allow it if you have been participating in the believes & practises of the religion when you were older & able to make a decision of your own free will.

TTWSYF

It's very difficult to accept real truth when it contradicts what you have/had believed to be true. Of course, the truth was always there, we just couldn't see it at the time.

Lots of examples that are/were ignored because we want to believe the best about our faith, not the worst.

The bible speaks about warfare with the spirit world [powers and principalities]. The WTS speaks about theocratic warfare against people. Anyone who questions the WTS can and should be lied to for not being worthy enough for the truth. The biggest problem with this is that the WTS and it's members will lie to their own flock. Madness.

The bible speaks of knowing a tree by it's fruit, but the WTS has no fruit. Sure, they have works like going door to door and restoring God's true name [so they say], but where is the fruit from these works? There are none. Who would acknowledge that within the WTS? My elder brother tries to tell me that works are fruits...Sorry bro, works that please the Lord are proven by the fruits. Works are not fruits.