Posts by TTWSYF

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Where would we go, is the question

by Pistoff in

what better place, what better world can be offered, is the question tossed at those who have left.. what if it is just the same place, without taking everything we hear at the kingdom hall as gospel?.

can we just take with a grain of salt the things we know deep down are without basis?.

it is the same place, with the same friends, but without the drama of feeling that you can never do enough, that you were born sinful.. a faith that does not ask you to treat your family as disposable; a place that does not kick people to the curb when they need their family the most; a faith that lets you trust your heart, not ignore it.. can we just stay in the same place, and realize that we do not have to sacrifice our childrens lives by denying them blood if desperately needed?

TTWSYF

I suggested reading the gospels in the bible because although JWs will come to the door saying they have the word, they do not read in a manner that lets them see the truth. You {or anyone} can read and make upyour own mind in relation to what you were taught. Jws really aren't taught the bible, they're taught the watchtower and awake with bible verses thrown in, more often than not, out of context.

I feel very discouraged that so many ex JWs become athiest, especially when the real truth is right there for you to see and read about without corruption [provided that they get rid of the NWT].

Just my opinion and I'm just saying it,

signed,

The Truth Will Set You Free

ttwsyf

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Where would we go, is the question

by Pistoff in

what better place, what better world can be offered, is the question tossed at those who have left.. what if it is just the same place, without taking everything we hear at the kingdom hall as gospel?.

can we just take with a grain of salt the things we know deep down are without basis?.

it is the same place, with the same friends, but without the drama of feeling that you can never do enough, that you were born sinful.. a faith that does not ask you to treat your family as disposable; a place that does not kick people to the curb when they need their family the most; a faith that lets you trust your heart, not ignore it.. can we just stay in the same place, and realize that we do not have to sacrifice our childrens lives by denying them blood if desperately needed?

TTWSYF

You could go to the gospels in the bible, but this time, read it by yourself so that you could read the real truth.

Stupid cult ruins real faith from those who escape..

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Evidence of Ocean of Water in or under Earth's Mantle.... Will people now state this to be proof of the Noah Account?

by adjusted knowledge in

jw
friends

"the transition zone can hold a lot of water, and could potentially have the same amount of h2o [water] as all the world's ocean.".

http://news.yahoo.com/found-hidden-ocean-locked-deep-earths-mantle-181204475.html.

i figured when people read this that there will be those claiming proof of the flood story.

TTWSYF

I have seen photos of the shell of a large wooden ark on Mt Ararat from miles up over the course of years. Some years the glacier covers what could possible be an ark and some years the glacier is melted away a bit and an ark is clearly visible.

Sorry, I don't have a link, but if you google Noah's ark photos, you would be surprised [or at least I was]

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What Do Mormons Really Believe? RE: The Nov. 8, 1995 Awake Magazine

by D_Rolling_Kearney in

i am a member of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, and i have written a heavily-documented response to the official magazine of the jehovah's witnesses, awake!, that claims to teach what we believe.

i saw an article from last year's watchtower about a guy who had barely been mormon for very long, and obviously did not know what we believe, who was given this magazine by jw's to show him "the truth.

" he claims to have proven to himself that it was true from information on the lds church's website.

TTWSYF

Line from my JW elder brother, and I quote..

"we eat Mormons for breakfast"

What a moron....

10

Going to family outing with a bad JW

by TTWSYF in

i'm not a jw nor is my entire family save for my brother, his wife and kids.

we are celebrating our grandparents 50th anniversary.. one of my brother's kids is living with his girlfriend and as a result, the rest of his immediate {jw} family is shunning him.. what, if anything do you think that i could do or say to get his (jw) family to see how awful their behavior is?.

i am asking for suggestions to get these people to think.. .

TTWSYF

Thanks Ignoranceisbliss, asking about suicides is a good start I think.

Finkelstein, good point. The couple is engaged and I don't really support their living together yet, but I'm glad they have plans and certainly I understand.

Ruderedhead-yes! Just another reason not to follow THE TRUTHtm

Satanus-good point, what's that called {common law spouse?} I think there must be several years of cohab before that kicks in though.

Sarasmile- I've been doing that for years with no results. Nothing seems to dislodge them from the WTS. Not false prophesies, false beliefs, doctrinal flip flops, etc, etc

Howthebiblewascreated- Just 30 more years to go :)

Thanks all!

ttwsyf

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Going to family outing with a bad JW

by TTWSYF in

i'm not a jw nor is my entire family save for my brother, his wife and kids.

we are celebrating our grandparents 50th anniversary.. one of my brother's kids is living with his girlfriend and as a result, the rest of his immediate {jw} family is shunning him.. what, if anything do you think that i could do or say to get his (jw) family to see how awful their behavior is?.

i am asking for suggestions to get these people to think.. .

TTWSYF

I'm not a JW nor is my entire family save for my brother, his wife and kids.

We are celebrating our grandparents 50th anniversary.

One of my brother's kids is living with his girlfriend and as a result, the rest of his immediate {JW} family is shunning him.

What, if anything do you think that I could do or say to get his (JW) family to see how awful their behavior is?

I am asking for suggestions to get these people to think.

Thanks,

The Truth Will Set You Free

TTWSYF

28

"The end will come when you least expect it"

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, so didnt jesus supposedly say "the end will come when you least expect it"?

(or words to that effect...).

so, with so many witnesses running around in an excited way talking about "100 years since the kingdom...etc" and "it may be our last chance to pioneer etc"..."may be the last international conventions".....doesnt this mean then that the end can not come now??!!.

TTWSYF

Judgement day is the day I die.

That is when the theif is coming.

Possible, but highly unlikely scenarios include some cosmic collision, earthquake or volcano eruption that destroys all life on earth.

Because those are highly unlikely scenarios, how could you ever possibly expect (or worse) teach your children that is what we should expect?

If you knew before hand the crap that they believe, you would run them off of your property with a shotgun

....just saying...

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"The end will come when you least expect it"

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, so didnt jesus supposedly say "the end will come when you least expect it"?

(or words to that effect...).

so, with so many witnesses running around in an excited way talking about "100 years since the kingdom...etc" and "it may be our last chance to pioneer etc"..."may be the last international conventions".....doesnt this mean then that the end can not come now??!!.

TTWSYF

Mark 13;32 "But about that day, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven or even the son, only the father"

Just the typical fear inducing membership drive that the watchtower has promoted since it's inception (less than 150 years ago)

Amazing to me to hear any JWs say "where does the bible say that?" People coming to your door to talk about the bible, but really you talk about the watchtower and awake and say "get with our program or be destroyed"

just saying

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Is the Bible really out of date?

by jam in

jw
friends

an interesting read the emporia gazette: www.emporiagazzette.com.

the israelities needed moral codes, civil codes and holiness codes.. when the jews were getting ready to go to the promise land, god.

had to prepare them to become a nation.

TTWSYF

The Bible is timeless and does not change, nor does the Father or Jesus. Of course... and hence Jesus was AOK with stoning homosexuals to death , of course not. He didn't want the Jews to stone the woman who was the adulterer right? Why? Because they would not have the chance to repent [probably]. If he is the judge, why would he want anyone to kill for him? Never happen. Just my opinion. Regards to all, DC

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Who Really Are True Christians?

by The Searcher in

well, since the wtbts "litter-ature" has informed people almost 4000 times about "true christian/s", then it would appear that they must be the assigned experts to judge any hypocritical "wolves in sheep's clothing".. thank goodness the bible confirms that the fds has been given the privilege to say who is or isn't a christian!.

2 corinthians 5:10 says (probably in the new version of the nwt) "for we must all be made manifest before the judgment seat of the governing body, that each one may get his award for the things done through the body, according to the things he has practiced, whether it is good or vile.".

or in simple terms, it's like saying to christ, "don't worry yourself, we'll do the judging for you!!"..

TTWSYF

I always thought that Christians were CHRISTIANS because they had the church of Christ. They worshipped the Christ the same as the Father.

Something about the name of Jesus being above any other name.

Think I read that somewhere......not in The Watchtower or Awake though..