One Eye hit the nail on the head! But great observations from all.
There MUST be some fruit from the WTS. I mean I was always hearing about 'knowing a tree'
Any real Watchtower fruit?
Anyone, ? Bueller?....Bueller?....Bueller?
my uber jw elder brother used to use jesus's quote "you know a tree by it's fruit" and then would speak about how jws are the only ones going door to door and restoring god's true name.. my niece was the first to point out that those were works and not fruits.
my brother retreated for a few days to contemplate the difference between works and fruits and when he returned to address the comment, he stated that works are fruits.
what's the take from the jw apologist?.
One Eye hit the nail on the head! But great observations from all.
There MUST be some fruit from the WTS. I mean I was always hearing about 'knowing a tree'
Any real Watchtower fruit?
Anyone, ? Bueller?....Bueller?....Bueller?
jehovah’s witnesses are taught to lie but to then lie about lying.
first off, let’s define what it means to tell a lie.
i prefer the definition offered by aristotle way back in 4th century b.c.e.
Theocratic warfare DOES sound better than Lying for the Truth.
Both are absolute shit though
my uber jw elder brother used to use jesus's quote "you know a tree by it's fruit" and then would speak about how jws are the only ones going door to door and restoring god's true name.. my niece was the first to point out that those were works and not fruits.
my brother retreated for a few days to contemplate the difference between works and fruits and when he returned to address the comment, he stated that works are fruits.
what's the take from the jw apologist?.
My uber JW elder brother USED to use Jesus's quote "You know a tree by it's fruit" and then would speak about how JWs are the only ones going door to door and restoring God's true name.
My niece was the first to point out that those were works and not fruits. My brother retreated for a few days to contemplate the difference between works and fruits and when he returned to address the comment, he stated that works are fruits.
What's the take from the JW apologist?
What's the take from the JW critic?
i have posted one other time on this website.
just for the mere fact that i wasn't anger and bitter and ready to declare the gb the sociopathic criminals that so many here ascribe to, my initial question digressed to bickering over ad hominem attacks against the gb and not my beliefs that i'm questioning.
some did give me some help on my questions.
I must admit that I would rather be in the JW cult than some other cults like
Jonestown - Jim Jones kool aid death cult
Branch Davidians - that burned to the ground
Those folks that killed themselves wearing nikes waiting for a spaceship to carry them away.
Moonies
Krishnas.
So that is at least 5 cults that rank behind the WTS
i have posted one other time on this website.
just for the mere fact that i wasn't anger and bitter and ready to declare the gb the sociopathic criminals that so many here ascribe to, my initial question digressed to bickering over ad hominem attacks against the gb and not my beliefs that i'm questioning.
some did give me some help on my questions.
So is this something that the WTS teaches now? That they're the best cult around? A better cult than the educated TTATT cult?
Whatever...Good luck
by its own mandate in the founding of the watchtower magazine in 1879, it was set up to proclaim the arrival of jc in the heavens according to the then currently failed adventist claim for jesus' return the year 1874.. russell's catalyst for all that came afterwards was his pet claim (in so many words) "aha but jc did in fact come... but came invisibly!
" he added without sound evidence that it took four years for jc to come to rule from the heavens after his arrival there and that then was said to be in 1878. .
within forty biblical years from the arrival date, russell promised, with hopes even higher than his bank account, that god’s kingdom with christ at the helm would rule the earth in the absence of all worldly opposition.
If the Watchtower is God’s mouthpiece and the "end time" its key doctrine; how could Holy Spirit repeatedly get the dates and the events always wrong, resulting in total failure during the whole 136 years of its 'divine' prophesying?
What conclusions can we draw?
That we shouldn't take stock market tips from the WTS
please post your favorites too.
my favorite quotations:.
you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.. don’t think of cost.
a friend with weed is a friend indeed
There once was a man from Nantucket....
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
depressed soul,
Sounds like you are looking for answers. You sound a little depressed.
Could I interest you in a free bible study?
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
So could somebody sum up in as short as possible,
What is the alternative to JWs?
Answer- Any faith [thru an organization] that actually produces real fruits that actually help people.
i knew i had a couple of firearms around the house, and one in the car.
however, i didn't realize i had seven, yes, seven of them, when i proceeded to count them.
the reason for that is that i haven't gone to the shooting range in years.