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  By what authority does the Watchtower declare itself biblical interpreter?

  by TTWSYF in

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  we're god's reliable mouthpiece, but not prophet?

  jesus inspected all faiths in 1914?.

  does everyone agree or is it more convoluted than that?.

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  We're God's reliable mouthpiece, but not prophet? Jesus inspected all faiths in 1914?

  Does everyone agree or is it more convoluted than that?
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  What actually happened AFTER Jesus zoomed up into the clouds and disappeared?

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  what happened after jesus zoomed up into the sky?for a while, he was expected to return rather quickly.in the meantime, there was the “great commission” and evangelism to be tended to.. the jesus believers were meeting in people's homes.

  members of that community would take turns using private homes to gather.

  thus, they went house to house.. these footstep tracers of jesus (they called themselves akolouthontes "followers" or some called themselves mathetai or "learners.

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  The Jesus believers were meeting in people's homes. Members of that community would take turns using private homes to gather. Thus, they went house to house.

  These footstep tracers of Jesus (they called themselves Akolouthontes "followers" or some called themselves Mathetai or "learners.") were puzzling out what it meant to follow Jesus. Who was he...really? Was he going to return? Why? When?

  Each was curious about the others. Maybe somebody else knew something they didn't? They sought each other out....with questions...

  If somebody brought word that another house in another town had Akolouthontes or Mathetai a person would be appointed as an emissary. These emissaries were called Apostles. The job of an apostle was to contact other believers and create a network with them.

  This is quite incorrect. There were many who had met Jesus and tried to follow his ways. They were called disciples. They were not a religion, just different people who met Jesus or heard of him and put their limited knowledge of Jesus and his teachings into their lives. Not a bad thing, just not a religion.

  Jesus did start a church and commissioned his [12] apostles to start it and promote the growth of His church by doing ALL that Jesus had commanded, not just some of what he commanded. This is known by how each of the apostles started to grow His church with consistently similar teachings and sacraments. It's called history. Door to door? Maybe that happened, but that's not how His church grew. Just saying....cause its's true
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  Russell and the Jehovah's Witnesses are mentioned in article: "Will the world end on Saturday?"

  by pseudoxristos in

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  google news featured the following article.

  will the world end on saturday?...then there were the followers of charles taze russell, a 19th-century preacher who looked for jesus’ return and the resurrection of the dead (christians only, please) in 1878 (and again in 1914).

  they became jehovah’s witnesses, who now ring doorbells around the world (and are persecuted for it in some places — looking at you, russia).

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  SO is it Sister Lucia or Sister Fatima? They seem to be interchangable.

  cetusnews is such a professional and accredited news agency that it must be true...lol
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  What actually happened AFTER Jesus zoomed up into the clouds and disappeared?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what happened after jesus zoomed up into the sky?for a while, he was expected to return rather quickly.in the meantime, there was the “great commission” and evangelism to be tended to.. the jesus believers were meeting in people's homes.

  members of that community would take turns using private homes to gather.

  thus, they went house to house.. these footstep tracers of jesus (they called themselves akolouthontes "followers" or some called themselves mathetai or "learners.

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  "Eyewitness" testimony is about as accurate as Jehovah's Witness testimony, for sure.

  Wish I could agree, but Witnesses employ Theocratic warfare [aka 'Lying for the Truth'tm]

  Eye witness testimony tends to cross over to people of different beliefs so their witness to specific events are considered more reliable.
  
  
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  My Father has brandished me with the "APOSTATE" word for talking about the BIBLE!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so after three years of fading, my elder father has never really asked why we have chosen to stop attending.. today, after a mixed discussion, he starts talking about the "solution to all the world problems" and says "i don't know what you now believe, but i believe gods kingdom will fix everything" i let the comment go, and didn't respond.. then he goes on about the video "remember the wife of lot" because he just came from the convention last weekend.

  "don't get caught up in this system...blah blah".

  i couldn't help myself, and said one thing "dad, that video failed to show the next chapter of that account.

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  Stuckinarut2

  I am so sorry to hear about that. I have the same issue with my uber JW elder brother.

  I would point out the very obvious distructive problems with the WTS and he would 'blah, blah, blah, look at the fruits'

  OK, let's look at the fruits. What fruits?

  'blah, blah, blah we're the only ones going door to door and restoring God's true name"

  OK, that's works, not fruits. Blessed works produce good fruits. What are the fruits?

  Silence.....

  He was totally dumbfounded by works not being fruits...sad

  WTS works produce no fruits what so ever it seems, but people [like my brother] who have been manipulated will not see that unfortunately.

  TTWSYF
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  What's the deal with the anointed class, why aren't they JW rulers?

  by TTWSYF in

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  so i never got in with the jws far enough to know the detailed teachings regarding the 144k going to heaven.

  they are rulers with jesus in heaven?.

  shouldn't they be in charge of the wts?

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  Thanks all.

  So the 7 men in NY are all anointed class from the 144k? And they alone interpret WTS scripture?
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  What's the deal with the anointed class, why aren't they JW rulers?

  by TTWSYF in

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  so i never got in with the jws far enough to know the detailed teachings regarding the 144k going to heaven.

  they are rulers with jesus in heaven?.

  shouldn't they be in charge of the wts?

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  So I never got in with the JWs far enough to know the detailed teachings regarding the 144k going to heaven.

  They are rulers with Jesus in heaven?

  Shouldn't they be in charge of the WTS? Shouldn't they be the ones translating, guiding and ruling the governing body?

  Aren't they in communications with Jesus since 1914?

  It's hard to follow
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  Translating accurately is really f*&%$ing hard!

  by TTWSYF in

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  i wanted to relay an example that i heard about translating difficulties.

  take the 5 word phrase.

  "i didn't eat your sandwich".

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  Deegee,

  That is a great point. So many translations from people and groups who say they know better and they know the truth about the bible.

  Isn't it common sense to go to the people who gave the world the bible for proper teaching of what it actually means?

  40,000 Christian groups. 39,999 started by men or women.

  1 started by Jesus...

  hmm, which one would be the closest to the real truth?

  New World Translation?...impossible

  TTWSYF

  The Truth Will Set You Free
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  Translating accurately is really f*&%$ing hard!

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to relay an example that i heard about translating difficulties.

  take the 5 word phrase.

  "i didn't eat your sandwich".

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  Hi Crazy Guy,

  It's worth mentioning that the bible was written after Jesus started his church. He instructed the apostles to teach all that he had commanded them to. He never said to write it down. He never wrote anything down [that we know of anyway]. the bible was put together by the Catholic church by those who knew how to write, but the church was grown through the spoken word and the bible came after as an account of the church.

  Matt 28;20 New International Version

  and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
  
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  Translating accurately is really f*&%$ing hard!

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to relay an example that i heard about translating difficulties.

  take the 5 word phrase.

  "i didn't eat your sandwich".

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  Any one remember Rodney Dangerfield's movie 'Back to School'?

  There was a scene when Rodney's character is confronted by his love interest/professor who states that Kurt Vonnegut had no idea about Kurt Vonnegut.

  Remember, Kurt V was tutoring Rodney on his books and she [the professor] said, who ever did this report knows nothing about Kurt V.

  That's what it seems like when listening to JW speak about the bible or reading a WTS publication about biblical prophesy. Seems like stuff is just made up on the spot