i see people take positions all day long and i rather suspect both sides are woefully ignorant.. i read and hear people speak of the volumes of data pro or con and when i ask for specific examples of what each may be referring to, i am often met with silence.. .
What do you know "without googling" about the reputed mechanisms for evolution?
I see people take positions all day long and I rather suspect both sides are woefully ignorant.
I read and hear people speak of the volumes of data pro or con and when I ask for specific examples of what each may be referring to, I am often met with silence.
GB, I like you, I like your posts, but this one is phrased like a true blue arrogant JW.
Intelligence is'nt defined by being a storehouse of information.
My point is that all of us are prone to oversimplify and categorize and bang our ever-so-wise gavels and shout "Guilty as charged!" at the first hint of impropriety in this area. Actually, to thier credit, the WT Society seems to be doing this these days, in the "big picture," regardless of what some posters here seem to think. Sure, there are still ongoing complaints, no doubt most of them valid. But there are nut jobs who would like nothing better than to cause trouble for somebody they don't like (surprised that there might be a nut job in a congregation of JW'S?) and they just hint to some ignorant elder that somebody molested a child!
Actually, I think most of us are over careful in this area. Because an innocent accusation waters down any credibility we have towards the actually guilty. Does'nt really matter, though, because even if someone was df'd for molestation, they would'nt warn the parents anyway, soooo...
no, I do not suggest that the two-witness deal is the decisive factor for elders. It seems that the mere SUGGESTION of two VICTIMS would warrant serious inquiry, and notification of proper authorities.
That sounds good and all, but that's not the way they've operated. In my bro's case, and several others that this monster messed w/, the elders already knew. It's 2 witnesses to each event, or nothing. They insinuated that they'd "taken care of it" and reported. Nope, what they meant was they reproved him and told him to pray more. So he went on to molest dozens more children.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weiyggwt6no.
BTW, Mrs. Jones, your taste in music is amazing.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weiyggwt6no.
Learning the slide intro from this one right now.
<<part i. i dont recall discussing the great disappointment of 1975 as a family.
i was only 5 and my older and wiser brother was 8. what i can remember was the muted sense of excitement we both felt in 1977. shortly after elvis died my dad announced we were moving off the island back to the scottish mainland.
i didnt connect the death of elvis with our big move, and rightly so.
Great stuff, besty.
in a recent thread about an nfl player being allowed to return to play after being convicted and serving time for a felony, it was suggested that maybe his ancestory played a part in his attitudes and actions.. those of you were playing along at home know the deal.... is it fair to lay blame on one's ancestors in how one acts in today's society?.
i think not.... my ancestor's came here from scotland, when their lands were taken from them back home.
they came here with nothing and had to start over in a land with next to nothing, eeking out an existance in the mountains of tn and nc, always struggling.
Are you referring to Ohiocowboy in that statement, snowbird?
my brother is autistic.
high functioning, fun guy.
he was a fun kid.
BTTT for Renaiaa. For the initial part of the post. How do they treat your little one?
does anybody remember which scripture it is in the greek scriptures (i want to say it was of paul's writings) that the jw's used as a reason that women had no privileges that a man could have in the congregation?
i remember doing research on it for a return visit.
basically the jist of it is that because of eve's sin, all women are inferior.
Paul was a dick.
