this thread is to formally address this subject.
this is for forum members and especially for lurkers (current witnesses reading this in secret).
please feel free to post any additional points.. there are a lot of changes happening in wt land.
In a way myself and mrs hoser benefit from the watchtower's real estate empire.
We donated about ten thousand dollars for the purpose of renovating our local Kingdom Hall just for it to be sold out from under us less than a year later and the monies sent to headquarters.
How did it benefit us? I woke up to the con game they are playing with real estate. We won't ever give them another dime
as a jehovah's witness you know you can never do enough without hearing stories of another witness doing twice what your doing and living off half the money your living on because they give all their time and money to the watchtower.
this is totally bunk, reading romans 7:21-24 paul knew his condition was hopeless without the free gift from god.
paul put all his emphasis on jesus christ, not some self-appointed apostles whose proof offered up is over 150 years of failed prophecy!
Yes, it is a motivational system based on guilt. Take away the guilt and the Jehovah's Witness religion would fall apart.
That is why, in my opinion, the watchtower organization is so against anything that can increase a persons self esteem. They are against hobbies, recreation and higher learning. If people feel good about themselves by outside means they won't strive to feel adequate by engaging in watchtower activities.
i was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.
this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.
it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.
The articles about training elders are revealing. The leadership realizes that if they don't get young brothers involved they will be in big trouble 20 years down the road when today's elders are too old or dead.
What this means is that the governing body knows that "this wicked old system" isn't going to end anytime soon.
If they really believed the end was soon they wouldn't print these kinds of articles.
on jw tv.
anthony morris is ranting against higher education.
he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.
fresh from the "press":to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: local design/construction department broadcastdear brothers:the work of constructing and maintaining theocratic facilities throughout the unitedstates branch territory is indeed great!
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29:1) with this in mind, we are pleased to informyou of a special meeting to be presented on saturday, january 31, 2015, at 3:00 p.m. easternstandard time (est) to all elders and circuit overseers in the united states branch territory.the meeting will be approximately two and a half hours in length and will includepresentations by members of the local design/construction department, the united statesbranch committee, the worldwide design/construction department, and a member of the governingbody.
Perhaps: The old ones are falling apart because of bad construction -Or - They are managing this as a real estate development project with the intent of flipping properties for a profit (with none of the profit trickling down to the local congregations).
Bingo!
fresh from the "press":to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: local design/construction department broadcastdear brothers:the work of constructing and maintaining theocratic facilities throughout the unitedstates branch territory is indeed great!
(1 chron.
29:1) with this in mind, we are pleased to informyou of a special meeting to be presented on saturday, january 31, 2015, at 3:00 p.m. easternstandard time (est) to all elders and circuit overseers in the united states branch territory.the meeting will be approximately two and a half hours in length and will includepresentations by members of the local design/construction department, the united statesbranch committee, the worldwide design/construction department, and a member of the governingbody.
Read: A new design that is expected to yield better re-sale value will be released at this meeting.
you read my mind
i met an aging, well, late sixties, pioneer sister a few days back, from a congregation four removes away, and a different circuit to my old congo.
i have known her since i was a kid.. i wasn't quite sure at first if she knew our "status" as we exchanged pleasantries, but it soon became clear she knew exactly our situation, that we walked away a few years ago.. she asked me about my views on life now, and listened respectfully, and said she appreciated my view, but a couple of questions that she threw at me, as in the thread title, showed that she was surprised that mrs phizzy and i had not gone off the rails after we left.. the mind control goes so very deep does it not ?
she was surprised that our marriage hadn't failed, and that we were now happy.. i wonder if she will ever make the connection that the jw org has lied to her about those of us who leave ?.
Left together and still very much in love. I do think the witnesses are surprised to see us still together, they always have been told how bad things turn out if you leave.
so after nearly 15 to 19 years of not attending a convention, i can't recall exactly, i went to one last year.
the brother giving the talk was from bethel and was introduced as a helper of the governing body.
it was a title i never heard of before.
I remember back in the 90s when they started the helper arrangement there was a lot of speculation that Armageddon was imminent because the helpers were other sheep and could run things on the earth when the gb went to heaven at the big A.
so after nearly 15 to 19 years of not attending a convention, i can't recall exactly, i went to one last year.
the brother giving the talk was from bethel and was introduced as a helper of the governing body.
it was a title i never heard of before.
