so i've been reading stephen hassan's book on mind control and he made an interesting point that made me think about myself.
he asks the question, "what makes some people just walk out of cults on their own, while others require much harsher measures from others to get them out?".
most of you know that i was thoroughly indoctrinated as a jw.
The meetings are the key to maintaining the hold on to people. With that said I wonder how effective it is with only 2 group meetings per week instead of 3.
The GB knows this as well, and it is the sole reason why they have turned up the guilt factor on Family Worship Night by 100x.
-Sab
so i've been reading stephen hassan's book on mind control and he made an interesting point that made me think about myself.
he asks the question, "what makes some people just walk out of cults on their own, while others require much harsher measures from others to get them out?".
most of you know that i was thoroughly indoctrinated as a jw.
This is the way I explain the phenomenon you are referring to:
As we all know Witnesses have a term called "Individual Spirituality" and this spirituality can be measured by the individual and others "qualified" to and of course everyone else can attempt to.
The WT ALWAYS tells you to keep in the busy work. Personal Study (using WT literature), Prayer, Field Service and Meetings. This takes up a large chunk of your free time and for some who work a lot almost all of it.
The WHOLE framework of the Witness life is designed to condition and indoctrinate. "Individual Spirituality" and Indoctrination are interchangable terms.
When the WT refers to the lowering of ones Spirituality they are actually referring to their conditioning taking a weaker hold on your conscious mind.
If you miss meetings, even for a short time, your "closed eyes" open up just a little and you can see the light of day, just a little.
Once you have the "eye slits" as I refer them to you always have the possibility of seeing the inside of the Kingdom hall for what is TRULY is.
I believe that the Kingdom hall is where the "awakening" happens most. The KH is a creepy scene. Very rhythmic and repetitious, everyone is nodding their heads and look as if they are just SOAKING up something they have never heard before.
You take a look at those nodding heads. Then you listent to what is being said. The content is dry and is the thousandth time you have heard this particular part of the conditioning and maybe the ten thousandth time the person you are looking at's time.
"What the hell IS this?"
It's a freaky and liberating revelation.
I believe that this CANNOT happen spontaneously. It might have felt spontaneous, but likely it was the climax of a long process, but the Awakening is the most memberable and life shattering.
In order for this to happen, you have to have a "low spirituality" which again, is synonymous with "lower indoctrination."
-Sab
i'm disgusted.
so, i'm formally challenging djeggnog to either substantiate or retract his outrageous claim that:.
1. russell made no predictions about 1914.. 2. specifically, russell never predicted christ's "coming" for 1914.
The FDS to these WT fanboys are bonified idols. They can do no wrong. Anything "bad" that they have done will be explained away. The GB is their Authority and their God.
-Sab
i'm disgusted.
so, i'm formally challenging djeggnog to either substantiate or retract his outrageous claim that:.
1. russell made no predictions about 1914.. 2. specifically, russell never predicted christ's "coming" for 1914.
^ This thread rules, btw. I predict many lurker's eyes opening BECAUSE of djeggnogs rebuttal. I get a measure of satisfaction out of that.
-Sab
i'm disgusted.
so, i'm formally challenging djeggnog to either substantiate or retract his outrageous claim that:.
1. russell made no predictions about 1914.. 2. specifically, russell never predicted christ's "coming" for 1914.
Ahhh snap!
-Sab
he invited me about 4 weeks ago, to be a guest speaker in his cong.. should i go ahead?.
should i tell him about my situation?.
what's the worst that could happen if my cong finds out about this?.
Silly troll, tricks are for kids!
-Sab
all these years (especially during my adolesence) i have been praying to that christian god (jehovah,yhwh,god,him,yahweh,jah,almighty) but he has never answered a single prayer of mine.i have lived up to his standards wholeheartedly and with zeal and he spits me in the face every day.he left me when i encountered hardships or even minor difficulties even though i gave my full pottential to worship him.i got fed up with his lies and mistruths and my patience has abandoned me.now it's time for me to turn my back on him in return..
Prayer is not about asking for things. Prayer is a form of communion. It's about building a relationship.
"Ask and you shall receive" ?
-Sab
to me there is no reason to let a child die, even if he/she will be resurrected.. i have some convos with jws about the blood doctrine and it gets my blood boiling!
(no pun intended).. no respect for life.
but i guess that's the point of being a jw, this current life is worthless so dying in it "in the name of jehovah" is more appealing then living it out to the end.. "abstain from blood.
^ pretty much
-Sab
It's soooo BAD it's GOOD!
-Sab
to me there is no reason to let a child die, even if he/she will be resurrected.. i have some convos with jws about the blood doctrine and it gets my blood boiling!
(no pun intended).. no respect for life.
but i guess that's the point of being a jw, this current life is worthless so dying in it "in the name of jehovah" is more appealing then living it out to the end.. "abstain from blood.
