Posts by 4skins

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FINANCIAL DOOM & THE JUDGMENT OF JAH

by You Know in

all the talk of late has been about the crisis on wall street, and indeed, throughout the entire global financial system.

the most recent scandal du jour and causality of the stock market slide is the gigantic media firm aol time/ warner.

http://www.nypost.com/business/45742.htm.

4skins

Hi You Know,

I'm positve this is not a judgement from the Adonai Yehowah--not yet at least. JP Morgan is one of many connected to what some call the Money Trust(I've never thought of that as an oxymoron until you pointed it out). The membership of the MT includes the private owners of the Federal Reserve, seven out of the ten owners are European, the other three are American and all appear to be zionists.

I don't know what rapport you've had with other site participants here, but based upon this thread it seems to have been an antagonistic one, so I don't know the range of your claims. Because the MT controls governments and ecomonies it will be the instrument through which the one world government will be allowed into ephemeral existence. This present markets collapse is purely a means to an end and contrived by the MT for their agenda, not God's.

The socialist family, ie. communism, capitalism, fascism, naziism and zionism is spread through the west like tentacles on a cancer tumour. The Democrats if you compare their platform represents communism and the Republicans represent fascism. The corporate WTS was originally funded by a member of the MT, so a few years ago (circa 1992) when the WTS claimed that their King of the North(then collapsed USSR communism) would make a resurgence they were correct in the sense that the collapse of the USSR was for the purpose of an almalgamation with the socialist west. They obtained their information via their links to the MT.

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Need Help - New JW Pedophile Project (Links)

by Amazing in

jw
friends

ps: a poster emailed these links and i think they will help with the following project: .

the american professional society on the abuse of children.

click here: http://www.apsac.org/.

4skins

My Dear Naive Grits,

The media and others have been noisely waking up the dead in the case of the Catholic church. If the government is not going after them, explain to me why the government will go after the corporate WTS or its Sanhedrin, or for that matter a whole host of other religious groups with similar pedophile problems?

But you're right--I will give it up and let you guys persecute the individuals so that the WTS can perpetuate yet more abuse on children.

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Need Help - New JW Pedophile Project (Links)

by Amazing in

jw
friends

ps: a poster emailed these links and i think they will help with the following project: .

the american professional society on the abuse of children.

click here: http://www.apsac.org/.

4skins

Like the Catholic church, the WTS is getting its fair share of adverse publicity over their policy of shielding pedophiles, but nothing changes. The WTS Sanhedrin has no plans to make changes for the very reasons Amazing pointed out on an early post,Real Reason Why JW Elders Don't Report.

The problem is like a factory spewing out poison into a stream which flows into a river and kills everything in its path. What you guys are proposing is the equivalent of cleaning up the delta where the poison settles instead of shutting off the valve at the offending factory. In your zeal to clean up the delta you're leaving the WTS in tact to spew out its poison. You explain the wisdom of this approach.

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FINANCIAL DOOM & THE JUDGMENT OF JAH

by You Know in

all the talk of late has been about the crisis on wall street, and indeed, throughout the entire global financial system.

the most recent scandal du jour and causality of the stock market slide is the gigantic media firm aol time/ warner.

http://www.nypost.com/business/45742.htm.

4skins

Hi You Know,

I do think you understand something about how the world system works, but I suggest that you may be absent a few pieces of information. It's the so-called Money Trust which controls governments and markets. It appears to me that a depression commenced a few years ago about the time when new accounting principles were introduced. I base this on trade deficits and the fact that America had moved from a producer society to a service society. In August of 2001 a collapse had commenced but was interrrupted by 9-11. I suspect that a full scale markets collapse is presently under way, a resumption of last August's. The S&P is probably a better barometer of market condtions: It may breach 600 points and crash further. Obviously, the Dow may descend to 4500 with a risk of crashing through that level. What may stave off a crash is a war and/or another terrorist attack. The United States may be in a war with Iraq between now and October. However, this is no guarantee that a war will halt this economic slide. This has nothing to do with any specific biblical prophecy, but a plan already created by the Money Trust. The western world may well descend into a quagmire, with civil rights and constitutional freedoms suspended in the USA, but it is not related to any specific biblical prophecy.

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women, god and religion

by teejay in

jw
friends

i'm close to leaving this place, but before i go, i've been meaning to post this politically incorrect viewpoint.

it's an extension of a conversation i had with my mother in law not long ago, a conversation which was itself an extension of several extensions of thought that i've had over the years about a number of things.. simply put, there are two kinds of people in our world.

those that believe the bible and those that don't.

4skins

Hi Heaven,

I don't know Francois so I can't speak for him. But I can tell you this:- I didn't say "want", I said "need", and yes, the latter is true. I'll tell you this also. When Bill Clinton got voted in for his second term on the back of women voters the NOW feminists commissioned Rosalie Osias, a New York attorney to run a poll to determine why. She drafted a report which enraged her employers(come to think of it, when are feminists not enraged?) She stated that women vote with their libidoes; the man that generates the authority image attracts women. In summary she stated that it is the man with the biggest club that gets the woman. Based on Osisas' poll I would suggest you do grow your hair long.

six of nine: Are you saying that your real identity is Richard Cranium?

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Need Help - New JW Pedophile Project (Links)

by Amazing in

jw
friends

ps: a poster emailed these links and i think they will help with the following project: .

the american professional society on the abuse of children.

click here: http://www.apsac.org/.

4skins

Hi Guys,

Go ahead--put pedophiles in jail. But you're still left with the WTS which contributes directly or indirectly to the pedophile problem. How do you address that? In your emotional state you overlook what I said.

First, how do you know I'm not an abuse victim? You don't, but you've assumed I'm not. Second, I know presently there is no successful treatment for pedophilies and I didn't suggest such. Third, I don't recall defending rapists, murderers and pedophiles.

Again I ask you:- just how are your vindictive actions against individual perpetrators affecting the WTS? Isn't it the WTS which has a policy of sheltering pedophiles? By focusing your rage upon the individual perpetrators you're effectively letting the WTS off, scot-free. Furthermore, I never expanded upon what options there might be in dealing with pedophiles.

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Need Help - New JW Pedophile Project (Links)

by Amazing in

jw
friends

ps: a poster emailed these links and i think they will help with the following project: .

the american professional society on the abuse of children.

click here: http://www.apsac.org/.

4skins

Hi Amazing,

I think you guys are going about this jw pedophillia matter the wrong way. Getting pedophiles incarcerated ultimately harms me...and you. How? We all will be taxed for more prison beds to house these criminals. Most pedophiles were victims of the same crime. Should society also pursue the perpetrators of this new generation of victimizers? And how does society guarantee that the victims of pedophillia won't later become victimizers themselves? Then, if these rock spiders get murdered in prison we're again asked to foot the bill to prosecute an investigation and trial. If one intends to maintain his rage against the WTS he needs to be careful not to rush to the primitive need to punish the individuals, who in this matter, are very disturbed members of society that need help themselves. Having said that it becomes obvious that society needs to be protected from these perpetrators. There are several options to undo the machinations of the WTS other than the fashion that you've determined upon.

If you guys need to punish people in the fashion that you seem bent upon, how are you any different from the jaydubs you were?

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conspiracies, paranoia and the supernatural

by SpiceItUp in

i have a water cooloer at home and get the jugs delivered and last week discovered that 2 of my 3 bottles were "bad"--- they tasted a bit on the metallic side and caused a bit of a minor stomach bug to those who drank a full glass (only lasted an hour or so after drinking).

i called the company and they are going to come out and replace them at no charge and mail me a report of anything they find in the water.

the third bottle was fine.

4skins

I think whether something is common knowledge or not has little to nothing to do with genuine conspiracies. For example:- In the United States it has been common knowledge for quite some time that terrorist atacks were a-coming. Islamic groups were actively watched since the Gulf War of 1991/2, but it didn't stop a conspiracy to blow up the WTC. Unfortunately, conspiracies are a one-way thing. If you are a recognized authority you can proclaim an event as a conspiracy even if its not(Mousouai has been proclaimed a conspirator by the government) and you're likely to be believed by the majority. If, in juxtapostion, a citizen claimed that the government was partner in the conspiracy, as probably will Mousouai, he is likely to be ridiculed by the very same people that believed in a government-decreed conspiracy. The paradox here is that one presupposes the government to have a moral superiority which the average citizen does not, while at the same time the citizenry maintains its general distrust of government.

Thus if there exists a conspiracy to overthrow western democracies,common knowledge is not likely to cause an abandonment by the conspirators to realize their goals. I would argue that common knowldege gives the conspirators an advantage.

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Don't buy into Ray Franz's stumbling block.

by Bleep in

ray franz wrote, "i was baptized a jehovah's witness in 1972 (three years before armageddon came) and served as an elder for a good number of years.

all i can say is put franz book to the test for yourself.

1)he is making money off a dumb idea.. 2)he was expecting 1975 to be armageddon.

4skins

Hi Bleep,

I think you've asked reasonable questions, but I can't see anything immoral in making a couple of bucks from legitimate effort. And I can virtually assure you that Mr.Franz is not making a 'bundle' from his book sales. The money just aint there like it used to be. People don't read lengthy books like they used to before the days of TV and junk magazines; the result is that folk tend to be illiterate and poor spellers, which is often a symptom of an ability to think critically. You seem to fit this classification---but don't fret---you can break out of it like so many others here have. Your critical thinking abilities will return as will your spelling prowess.

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women, god and religion

by teejay in

jw
friends

i'm close to leaving this place, but before i go, i've been meaning to post this politically incorrect viewpoint.

it's an extension of a conversation i had with my mother in law not long ago, a conversation which was itself an extension of several extensions of thought that i've had over the years about a number of things.. simply put, there are two kinds of people in our world.

those that believe the bible and those that don't.

4skins

Hey Francois,

You summed it up pretty well. Feminism is all about female moral superiority and even feminists understand that equality is non-existent. The type of superiority feminists clamour for is also to exercise dominance over feminine women. Equality is an illusion; it has never existed, does not exist and will never happen. Feminism, a socialist experiment, has another objective--- to disturb functional heterosexuality. Even as its practised in the watchtower culture it has largely been successfull.

Generally speaking, men and women don't understand each other. Contrary to what women say, women do not understand other women either, unless of course it's a lesbian relationship. What men won't understand about women is the difference between 'wants' and needs. Women don't know what they want; men must have a basic understand their needs.