Posts by HappyOutsideTheBox

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Jws and urban myths!

by Julia Orwell in

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jws sure love urban myths.

the jws have their own collection built up over many years, part of their own unique worldwide jw culture.

i've come across the same ones in america that i've heard in australia, and they pass from legend to myth and finally reality as quoted from the platform.

HappyOutsideTheBox

Galaxy chocolate was a NO NO as it had blood in it!

Fairy Liquid was up liquid was a NO NO as the company who owned it were demonic!

Second hand books, clothes, jewellry was a definite invite to the demons!

How could we have been so gullible?

HOTB

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funny story posted by on the UK exjw facebook site

by bigmac in

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all credit to wendy scotland for this one:-.

wendy scotland.

ok guys thought i would pass this on i think its so funny ..............i was told yesterday that a 8 year old boy at the kingdom hall was playing up as he didnt want to be there, and his mother grabbed hold of him and frog marched him (making a big scene) out of the hall, she flung open the back doors and took him outside a few seconds later he runs back in and shouts at the top of his lungs " oh and by the way a merry christmas to you all" before his mother drags him out again, got to bless the wee soul.

HappyOutsideTheBox

Child in question was allegedly - Andrew Morrison, Anniesland KH...many years ago!

HOTB

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1961 Kingdom Service Questions-Not to be studied at any meeting, nor placed in general circulation among the publishers!

by Atlantis in

1961 kingdom service questions: personal references to watch tower publications on moral matters..this booklet is the property of the_____________________congregation.

it is to be retained in the congregation permanent file.

its counsel is for the guidance of the congregation committee in handling matters with members of the congregation.

HappyOutsideTheBox

Sounds fascinating. Unfortunately I can't download the pdf. The first 2 liks have been removed and the last one won't respond! Ho Hum - I guess I pretty much Know the contents.

HOTB :)

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Do you think this message would tempt me back to the loving arms of the cong?

by HappyOutsideTheBox in

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a 25 year old relative of mine was being stalked last week by an older woman.

the police were involved and the perpetrator arrested.. as it was the convention and his uber zealous, hypocritical mother- aka my sister, was going to be absent from home i called to see how he was doing.

in the course of the conversation i referred to 50 shades of grey' (the stalker had fantasised about him being mr grey).

HappyOutsideTheBox

Thanks for all your comments

Totally agree about the sadness of a 25 yr old blabbing to his mother!

Indeed Solomon and his daliances plus a whole load of references that are read as normal if they are in the WT ....

Maybe I should send a copy of the book, although I have to say I have it on Kindle and will probably not read much of it as I find the writing style fairly poor and the obvious content is fairly predictable. It is certainly not a modern day Lady Chatterly's Lover although the media would have one thing differently!

I've decided I won't respond to the email. I have no problem with 'me' and I have no intention of having someone engahge me in a war of words and guilt trips for choosing to live, and speak, of subjects that are normal out with the cong.

Happy Families!

HOTB

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Do you think this message would tempt me back to the loving arms of the cong?

by HappyOutsideTheBox in

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a 25 year old relative of mine was being stalked last week by an older woman.

the police were involved and the perpetrator arrested.. as it was the convention and his uber zealous, hypocritical mother- aka my sister, was going to be absent from home i called to see how he was doing.

in the course of the conversation i referred to 50 shades of grey' (the stalker had fantasised about him being mr grey).

HappyOutsideTheBox

Thanks everyone.

Isn't it good we can see this with humour?

I look now at the controlling attitude that permeates everything they do (i.e. all witnesses not just my family) and can't believe I put up with it and probably perpetrated it myself over the years.

Thankfully now - it's live and let live!

HOTB

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Do you think this message would tempt me back to the loving arms of the cong?

by HappyOutsideTheBox in

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a 25 year old relative of mine was being stalked last week by an older woman.

the police were involved and the perpetrator arrested.. as it was the convention and his uber zealous, hypocritical mother- aka my sister, was going to be absent from home i called to see how he was doing.

in the course of the conversation i referred to 50 shades of grey' (the stalker had fantasised about him being mr grey).

HappyOutsideTheBox

A 25 year old relative of mine was being stalked last week by an older woman. The police were involved and the perpetrator arrested.

As it was the convention and his uber zealous, hypocritical mother- AKA my sister, was going to be absent from home I called to see how he was doing. In the course of the conversation I referred to 50 shades of grey' (the stalker had fantasised about him being Mr Grey). I mentioned that folks do all sorts and that even my neighbour is now having 2 guys round for sex ( the walls of the property are not very sound proof so nothing is left to the imagination).

I tried to make him chill out about the whole thing and realise that life in the 'world' has changed but that - hey - just live and let live and get on with his own life with his girlfriend and not to worry. I even thought I had succeeded as he laughed and joked with me throughout the conversation. Imagine my surprise when I received this at 7.41 this morning from my sister:

"Wanted to say that was nice of you to give xxxxxx a phone call on Friday regarding his difficulties.

What I don't find so nice is the quality of conversation you find acceptable to use with your nephew. It is sadly obvious that what you find appropriate in the way of sexual references and behaviour in this 'liberated' life you have is no longer on our or his wavelength.

It is highly disgusting to me to return from the convention and hear from my son how far you have distanced yourself from what is clean.

And before you go on your high horse, this opinion is shared by (her other son who left the 'truth 15 years ago has had a string of relationships and is living with his girlfriend) and (her husband - who vacillates in and out of the 'truth' and has had problems in every congregation that they have been in).

If you feel inclined to speak to us again don't use such vulgar and unacceptable speech"

So, what do you think folks -is that worthy of a reply?

I am SO glad to be out of that hypocritical narrow minded controlling way of life!

HOTB

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Does this sound familiar?

by HappyOutsideTheBox in

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i found this yesterday - i though you would enjoy it.. http://www.youtube.com/user/jeulax#p/u/6/kj7kleivjng.

hotb .

.

HappyOutsideTheBox

I couldn't remember how to start a a new topic so I'm popping this on here!

Do you think this message would tempt me back to the loving arms of the cong?

A 25 year old relative of mine was being stalked last week by an older woman. The police were involved and the perpetrator arrested.

As it was the convention and his uber zealous and hypocritical mother- AKA my sister, was going to be absent from the home over the weekend I called him to see how he was doing. In the course of the conversation I referred to 50 shades of grey' (the stalker had fantasised' about him being Mr Grey). I mentioned that folks do all sorts and that even my neighbour is now having 2 guys round for sex ( the walls of the property are not very sound proof so nothing is left to the imagination).

I tried to make him chill out about the whole thing and realise that life in the 'world' has changed but that - hey - just live and let live and get on with his own life with his girlfriend and not to worry. I even thought I had succeeded as he laughed and joked with me throughout the conversation. Imagine my surprise when I received this at 7.41 this morning from my sister:

"I wanted to say that was nice of you to give xxxxxx a phone call on Friday regarding his difficulties.

What I don't find so nice is the quality of conversation you find acceptable to use with your nephew. It is sadly obvious that what you find appropriate in the way of sexual references and behaviour in this 'liberated' life you have is no longer on our or his wavelength.

It is highly disgusting to me to return from the convention and hear from my son how far you have distanced yourself from what is clean.

And before you go on your high horse, this opinion is shared by ( her other son who left the 'truth 15 years ago has had a string of relationships and is living with his girlfriend ) and ( her husband - who vacillates in and out of the 'truth' and has had problems in every congregation that they have been in ).

If you feel inclined to speak to us again don't use such vulgar and unacceptable speech"

So, what do you think folks -is that worthy of a reply?

I am SO glad to be out of that hypocritical narrow minded controlling way of life!

HOTB

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"some were led to believe that the end would come in 1975"

by Sour Grapes in

last week a young elder giving the public talk made.

the statement that "some were led to believe that the.

end would come in 1975, but aren't we so thankfull.

HappyOutsideTheBox

Well it was real enough to all those in my hall. I was never going to leave school! We'd all have to run to the Kinddom Hall when it started etc...

I was in a hall packed with special pioneers and a few annointed. It was THE topic of conversation. It was fed from the platform and the literature.

How they can deny it now is astonishing. There is no difference between them and the 'spin doctoring' that goes on in politics where they sucessfully turn black into white and are wide eyed and innocent about it.

Yet again I hold my hands up and say thank goodness I've escaped all the controlling nonsense!

HOTB

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Do You Consider Yourself Religious? Do You Believe In God? Are You Spiritual?

by minimus in

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i do not consider myself religious in any way.

i do believe in "god" and i think i am a spiritual person to some degree.. what about you?.

HappyOutsideTheBox

Not at all to all 3!

Previously it would have been a resounding YES but now I have a very high and thick wall around all things 'spiritual' that I will not even try to overcome.

I inwardly cringe when I hear religious debates from anyone and any religion.

I too am in awe of nature an the beauties and wonders of the universe and this earth. The logical side of my mind tells me it didn't all happen by chance. However due to the habit of indoctrination from the 'society' I find I don't want to let my mind visit those subjects at the moment. My 'default' programming would automatically take over and I don't wish to have an internal debate in my mind.

I am enjoying the freedom from control and have no wish to put myself under any feeling of obligation or even gratitude for any of the things I see around me. I benefit, I enjoy, but I think the past 50 years of worshipful appreciation is enough from me for now!

HOTB

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Thank you watchtower...

by punkofnice in

..having been raised in your nutty cult i now have confusion over my world view!.

as i'm a brit we don't go in for therapy.

i tend to see it as some bloke trying to ask about freudian sex associations from my childhood.

HappyOutsideTheBox

I understand that initial confusion you are talking about. I call it my "default programme".

It is a hard one to over ride sometimes. I find myself being more aware of it when it happens now. If I'm with someone who knows my breakaway story I tell them about it as it is happening. Remembering it is not real helps.

Does it get easier? Well....I'd say yes - in time the strength of the programming fades although I don't think it will ever go away completely, that means a constant feeling of 'choosing' to do it our own way (with it's own questions as to why).

The feeling of rebelling and doing the opposite of what we were indoctinated with is sometimes just a knee jerk reaction and a feeling of "I'll make my own choices damn you WT".

I think the underlying feeling of the choice 'feeling' right is the one to go with. I had a friend ask me last week if I'd take blood now that I wasn't a Witness. It was good to know that my answer to that was my choice and not based on cult indoctrination but rather based on experience in the medical field.

The choices we make will have consequences. The only difference is that now we take responsibility for the outcome. We are not blind rats following a mandatory route anymore - we have chosen to branch off on our own - that brings it's own excitements and scary moments.

Over all we have all chosen freedom. We have chosen to 'find' ourselves. Yes we had a lot of our lives taken from us and a lot of our thought processes muted but we can reverse that now and enjoy the experience. Knowing we share the journey with like minded people who are going through the same process helps.

The questions and worries for your kids is another matter. The overall wish for their safety is always going to be uppermost in your mind. If they chose to be professional skydivers you'd feel the same concern for their well being. The army and worldy thing is a knee jerk reaction. The underlying concern is their safely. That's normal!

As far as your preaching goes. Follow your heart and feel good about what you choose to do. Throw your passion into it and it will feel right for you.

Remember: No one can tell you what to do anymore. No-one. You (we) have chosen the right to do what we want to do. Enjoy that FREEDOM. Enjoy that RIGHT.

All the best

HOTB