It just sounds abrasive when people come on and talk like no one else knows anything and starts telling people what to do.
notverylikely
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Caution about News and Leaders essential to Defeat Watchtower
by ruruj ina. caution about news.
don't take the leaked news as absolute truth.
wait for it to happen then the news become real and valid.. beware that nothing prevents watchtower from becoming a spin master - saying or planning one thing then implementing something else ... to throw us off-track or distract us from essential matters.. watchtower could confuse us by leaking rumors and spinning plans.
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A daugther's purity
by mrsjones5 ina young lady i know is touting on facebook about her 12 year old daughter's purity.
the daughter just took a purity promise at her church yesterday and i find that i'm slightly uncomfortable with the idea.
i know the child just started her period because her mother announced it to me and the child announced it to a whole park a couple of weeks ago .
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notverylikely
OMG what is a purity ball!?!?!?!
Mine are pure balls, the standard by which all others are judged, so, in a sense, purity balls.
And Josie (may I call you that?)...the whole purity/promise ring idea is super creepy. I have a 10 year old and he has his first girlfriend and was telling me he thinks he might want to kiss her on the cheek. I told him he needs to ask her, not just decide to do it.
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Caution about News and Leaders essential to Defeat Watchtower
by ruruj ina. caution about news.
don't take the leaked news as absolute truth.
wait for it to happen then the news become real and valid.. beware that nothing prevents watchtower from becoming a spin master - saying or planning one thing then implementing something else ... to throw us off-track or distract us from essential matters.. watchtower could confuse us by leaking rumors and spinning plans.
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notverylikely
I hate to tell you this, but the way you tend to come across is like you are trying to tell other people what to do and people generally don't like that.
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A daugther's purity
by mrsjones5 ina young lady i know is touting on facebook about her 12 year old daughter's purity.
the daughter just took a purity promise at her church yesterday and i find that i'm slightly uncomfortable with the idea.
i know the child just started her period because her mother announced it to me and the child announced it to a whole park a couple of weeks ago .
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notverylikely
Yep, sexual repression is always a good plan.
What, like when a girl ties me down and tickles me before sex?
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Question: How, exactly, does philosophy underpin science?
by bohm ini have seen the statement in the title thrown around a few times (bts, i think looking at you), and i thought i would throw out the question and see what happened.
i properly need to a few definitions: science will here be defined as both physics and mathematics which in turn is defined as: .
physics: stuff that happends in a laboratorie and stuff written about what happened or is expected to happend in nature.
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notverylikely
Philosohpy teaches critical thinking skills for one....
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A daugther's purity
by mrsjones5 ina young lady i know is touting on facebook about her 12 year old daughter's purity.
the daughter just took a purity promise at her church yesterday and i find that i'm slightly uncomfortable with the idea.
i know the child just started her period because her mother announced it to me and the child announced it to a whole park a couple of weeks ago .
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notverylikely
I hope she's able to follow through, simply because I feel that young women are precious and should not be "used" as sex objects by boys.
Wha huh?
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A daugther's purity
by mrsjones5 ina young lady i know is touting on facebook about her 12 year old daughter's purity.
the daughter just took a purity promise at her church yesterday and i find that i'm slightly uncomfortable with the idea.
i know the child just started her period because her mother announced it to me and the child announced it to a whole park a couple of weeks ago .
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notverylikely
IMHO a decision to not have sex until you're ready is personal, why do some christians think it has to be announced to the world?
Just as important, the are seeding the idea that sex is impure or dirty somehow. I mean, it CAN be dirty, but in the good way.
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COs Disappearing Latest
by wouldacouldashoulda inhi posters.
could someone give me the latest on cos and whether they are disappearing or not?
please feel free to post recent links i may have missed.. .
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notverylikely
I knew one...and he was a self-righteous, egotistical sumbitch. It was no wonder he was single...no self-respecting woman, hard-up and JW even, would marry that prick.
Ah, good old Kevin Wright... :)
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Evidence! How did you come to know reality?
by zannahdoll inis it possible that when we (as a people) make an advancement in science and learn new facts that they sometimes disprove what was once considered fact?
unless you test something for yourself you are taking the word of someone else.
or do you trust that things are certain?
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notverylikely
As far as misrepresenting what I say, for one thing: you said I only cut and paste without making an argument.
Again, NOT what I said. What I said was "Cutting and pasting isn't making an argument. It's dumping a cut and paste. I know that when people ask questions and make you prove your assertions it can seem contrary, but really it's the only way to prove your ideas."
Not sure what point you are trying to make. It's clear you see you cut off part a sentence and took a quote out of context to make it seem like I was arguing something I wasn't. Move on. My point was that you dumped a lot of cuts and pastes into the thread. What I said about that was an opinion. You dishonestly misrepresented something I said.
To specify WT literature it is implied or inferred: saying I sound like them is saying I am like them (having read the literature, making their arguments).
I was very specific in that your dishonesgt quote mining as a form of debate sounded like them. Any suggestion of more is something you are promoting, not me.
I still believe, hold firm, that we know reality through leaps of faith.
OK. Some people believe that, others do not. One side has fact, math, science that is proven to work. The other side has a huge differing amount of opinions that are completely unverifiable.
Many people think it is the same God, only different perspectives of the same entity. That is how I feel. So the question you really should ask, in my opinion, is not "Is it just your [God] that is right?" but instead "Is it just your perception that is right?"
Most that believe in a higher power do not. WRT to "Is it just your perception that is right"....define a "right" perception so that we can discuss this.
I asked an atheist friend what he did believe or think of the world.
I don't care what he thinks. I am not debating him :)
Reading a little bit on Hinduism there are chief god(s) and many, many lesser gods... reminds me of Catholicism's one god, many saints.
OK. I am honestly not sure if you are making a point there. Hinduism and Catholiscm are not related.
- Many old religions all have a flood story. Check it out for yourself: The Flood Myth
I knew that. I am not sure what the point is except people usually settled near rivers, lakes, seas and oceans and those things often flood.
- All the largest and oldest religions generally teach the same values concerning peace and love. I listened to the Dali Lama speak at UCLA and I've heard Pope John Paul II speak in Rome: generally it was the same message.
Not sure what the point of that is either. The message was usually a mixture of internal love for your fellow man, but death and destruction for those that weren't, which was usually people who weren't in the religion. Today that's not really an acceptable message so it's just the peace and love parts, but historically they didn't generally teach to love everyone.
We know where to get a beer and where to take a dump, but we can have very different opinions on the cleanliness of these places, how they are designed, what is attractive, comfortable, practical.
Which has zero bearing on the reality of what those rooms are.
Some people may not have a bathroom and prefer an outhouse or they may be homeless so they have no bathroom or kitchen.
Which has zero bearing on the argument I was making.
To define "atheist" you can only define it by what it is not, which presupposes knowledge of what it is not. So we all know the concept of God: our perceptions of what God is and if God exists are different. Interesting how much time we spend talking about God...
That's not uncommon. The word "retrograde" is defined by what it it isn't as well. To define something as "down" is irrelevant unless you first know what "up" is. I know, it IS crazy how much time some people like to spend talking about silent, invisible person.
Thus said, it is my understanding that yes: God exists, is constant, a reality if you have faith in God or not; it is religion and lifestyle that differ. Religion, for me, has always been a form of discipline, a source of joy and a place for a family community.
I'm totally cool with that if it works for you.
This goes to show the point I was making in the very beginning. We believe something is true/We know reality based on either our senses or based on what other people tell us.
And that's the part where you are wrong. We can find out things beyond our senses using tools and science, prove them true and test the validity of things other people say. It's not blind faith as you are suggesting. It's belief after evidence and verification. Just because I choose to beleive what someone says does not make it a blind faith like beleiving in god.
Anything we do not experience ourselves we are trusting another persons' experience.
Completely untrue.
There are lots of videos, documentaries, people who have seen it when it comes to miracles and supernatural things as well. I've talked to people who have seen supernatural things.
And not one of those things is testable, repeatable or proveable.
I agree that reality doesn't change, however I stand firm that we do not know for certain what is reality except based on faith.
Well, history proves you wrong. See Einstein and Gallileo for excellent reference points.
There are miracles/supernatural events that have been well documented, many observers, etc... some repeated... favorites of mine, being a Catholic, are the Marian Apparitions.
Are they testable, repeatable? Can you show me the documentation to test their validity?
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Does a JW know how to preach with out slandering other religions?
by Little Imp inone of the first things i noticed when attending a kh is how the person on the platform always resorted to slandering other religions during his talk.
it reminds me so much of a party political broadcast just before an election.
as soon as the candidate starts slandering the opposing party i just switch off.. i am not interested in what everyone else is doing wrong i want to know what they are going to that's right.
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notverylikely
Why is Obama the worst president ever, in your opinion?