For those of you who had a moment like that from the Matrix when you realised what you'd believed was fundamentally flawed or a lie - what caused that defining moment and how long was it before you could share your thoughts?
mmxiv
for those of you who had a moment like that from the matrix when you realised what you'd believed was fundamentally flawed or a lie - what caused that defining moment and how long was it before you could share your thoughts?.
mmxiv.
For those of you who had a moment like that from the Matrix when you realised what you'd believed was fundamentally flawed or a lie - what caused that defining moment and how long was it before you could share your thoughts?
mmxiv
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apologies if this has been discussed before, or is in the wrong forum, but i could really do with some advice.
two years ago i met the love of my life; someone i regard as my soulmate.
he is an active jw and i am a practising church of england person.
Hi CuriousUK,
Take all the time you need and do take what you've read with a pinch of salt too as we're giving advice and making judgements on the limited words you've written so know very little about you, your friend, the chemistry you have.
The one thing you're getting though is a range of fairly consistent (and blunt) advice on one thing that most here are experts on and that is the teachings and dynamics of the JW organisation and how these scenarios play out. Also experts on what JW's say and what they really mean so by all means ask any questions you want and you'll get a range of experienced answers whenever you need.
The views may also come across as quite serious and far reaching (kids etc) when this should be about enjoying a new relationship and maybe trying something new.
I've known some great JW's, I've had some great times as a JW but then I've had great times in hospital whilst undergoing operations - but it's not somewhere one would choose to be. I've known many more great people who aren't JW's and had much better times out - and I get to choose what i think :-)
take care
mmxiv
so thats what my mum told me today.
i've learned to hold my tongue but i was thinking,.
"why can't it?
very upsetting to see JW's in the autumn of their life kind of giving up the fight on account of a lifetime of false promises.
I haven't read the article. Having the news channel on all time with it's messages of doom and suffering is something one of my parents does too. It is endless bad news though so can't be good for one's outlook on life.
mmxiv
i have been reading things for a while.
in approximately 20 months it will be the year 2014. that year will be 1914+100 years.
i don't know how the wts is going to get around that if the "present system" is still in existence.
Welcome Conan the Barbarian!
Good observations and I agree that it is a year that won't go unoticed. The pre-96 teaching of the generation was a simple literal translation that deep down makes sense to a lot of JW's no matter how much they push the overlapping theory - which lets be honest - is grasping at straws.
mmxiv
listening to this in the news got me infuriated!.
there is a growing trend that employment interviewers are asking for facebook profile with login password.. they are looking into everything you post.. there is no law in the books to prevent this!.
even though i'm self employed, i think this goes beyond what's required of hirees!.
I have also been told that my FB account was being monitored during a sensitive time. Again this was for a specific reason to avoid PR issues. It felt intrusive but at least I knew why and got a heads up about it.
mmxiv
listening to this in the news got me infuriated!.
there is a growing trend that employment interviewers are asking for facebook profile with login password.. they are looking into everything you post.. there is no law in the books to prevent this!.
even though i'm self employed, i think this goes beyond what's required of hirees!.
Recon it's an ethical test? If you don't protect your own passwords - how will you care for theirs?
mmxiv
listening to this in the news got me infuriated!.
there is a growing trend that employment interviewers are asking for facebook profile with login password.. they are looking into everything you post.. there is no law in the books to prevent this!.
even though i'm self employed, i think this goes beyond what's required of hirees!.
Totally unethical to hand over passwords. I can understand if they look at someone's online footprint to see what they're saying or doing that can be acessed by the public but no way should they demand to something private.
That's like asking to hear private conversation between family members. Violation of privacy on soooo many levels.
I can understand it if you're working for government on sensitive issues. I had to hand over access to all my private bank accounts - they could monitor all of my transactions but it went with the territory. Any future employer asked me for private stuff like that without good reason I simply wouldn't consider working for them. Not a chance. I may as well go work in bethel.
mmxiv
this year will be my parents 50th wedding anniversary.
my mum is a jw my father is not.
my husband and i hade been df'd and i have 3 sisters.
I'm thinking the only way for tensions (from your older sis) not to exist at an occasion is for her not to be there. You could send her a warm and polite invitation (somehow) with RSVP and your telephone number on it which basically requires her to talk to you if she wants to accept. She probably won't call you and accept or turn up so then it'll be fine. Given the day is about your parents you should try and make light of your sister's absence, make some diappointed noises and then enjoy the day :-)
Maybe spinning this event as a casual thing - like not too much planning has gone into it and see how it goes on the day - this will make it less formal and therefore less of an issue that your older sister isn't there.
Good luck
mmxiv
apologies if this has been discussed before, or is in the wrong forum, but i could really do with some advice.
two years ago i met the love of my life; someone i regard as my soulmate.
he is an active jw and i am a practising church of england person.
CuriousUK,
I've seen life through his eyes - having been a young male JW. Being sex starved means the moment you hook up with a girl you're the most attentive lover and it would have been so exciting for him to have this secret forbidden relationship with you. Like a powerful holiday romance without the control of the truth.
His past may be colourful but life is about experience and he may have learned a great deal from his time in America.
But do not be under any illusions. He needs to be in a relationship to be happy, as he is lacking freedom of thought and a satisfying career - all the things that you have (and shouldn't trade). There was purpose in his actions in having the initial relationship with you and confessing it to get his scriptural divorce. You were his excuse to become free to remarry. That didn't work out and it seems his chances of finding a JW mate are becoming exhausted (his reputation will be rock bottom due to his previous reproof - which will always he a stigma he must carry). So now he's thinking back to when he had a great time - and that's when he shows up again (via text).
However nice and wonderful he is, you may find he is more than a little manipulative (something JW's are learn to be). He has already toyed with your emotions, is now asking you to make commitments which are really quite selfish. He doesn't truly know what he wants, may be full of promises and aspirations - a sign of over confidence hiding the low self esteem many male JW's suffer from (and understandably so - poor fella is in a community where he is considered a weak sinner due to his past which is not a good environment to be in).
This may seem overly negative - and may be hit and miss in terms of accuracy but I've been through it, seen it in many other JW's and would advise you take a realistic view. He has spent many years practicing the rote of being very understanding, showing a great personal interest in you (all the old sayings are coming out now!) and you would have rocked his world given your creative talent.
I wish you all the best and let us know how this progresses
mmxiv