Posts by Chaserious

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Amway

by enigma1863 in

i was curious, how many jws end up getting caught up in pyramid scemes like amway.

i was caught up in there online program quixstar for a little while several years ago.

i noticed there are several similarities between amway and a cult..

Since you asked, I know a lot more people who didn't make anything out of these businesses, and almost nobody who was successful. I have this one guy I went to high school with who is involved with an especially cult-like MLM, called Legal Shield. He posts shit on Facebook like 10 times a day saying how great it is. He's even inboxed me several times to get me to sign up as a marketer. What makes it especially cult-like is that he is always posting about associates who won their "gold $250k big earner ring" or double platinum jacket" or some other stupid shit like that. Anything that bases prestige on rings and jackets is suspect in my book. As least in the WTS you can get a title like elder or MTS grad or something. Whenever someone wishes him happy birthday or anything on FB, his response is always something like "Thanks, when can we meet for 20 minutes so I can show you the earning opportunity of a lifetime?" It's pathetic, really. Oh, and once in a while, he will put up some post like "If anyone needs handyman work done, I'm available. No job too small. Need the cash right now." lol

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Jw's and the third branch of government

by trujw in

i have always wanted to ask a jw how many branches of government their are?

most likley they would be hard pressed to know that there are three.

then i would like to ask why is it ok to run and participate in one branch proudly ( the judicial) but have nothing to do with the other two.

Chaserious

The WT has appealed to the Supreme Court on several occasions, which directly affects how laws are interpeted and carried out.

They would just say that Paul appealed to Caesar too.

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Amway

by enigma1863 in

i was curious, how many jws end up getting caught up in pyramid scemes like amway.

i was caught up in there online program quixstar for a little while several years ago.

i noticed there are several similarities between amway and a cult..

Chaserious

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Jw's and the third branch of government

by trujw in

i have always wanted to ask a jw how many branches of government their are?

most likley they would be hard pressed to know that there are three.

then i would like to ask why is it ok to run and participate in one branch proudly ( the judicial) but have nothing to do with the other two.

Chaserious

Branch of government does not equal political. Are the people who collect your garbage political? They are ultimately put in their positions by politicians who are elected. Also, courts don't decide legislative bills or what becomes law. Congress and state legislatures do that. Judges decide how the laws apply to various sets of facts. In some states judges are elected, so you could say they are political there. But in other states and the federal government they are not elected, and not political. In fact, in the U.S., federal judges (as well as their law clerks) are not allowed to campaign for any person running for elected position. They can't even put a sign on their lawn saying to vote for someone. Because they are not allowed to be outwardly political.

Yes, JWs are big hypocrites, but I think you are barking up the wrong tree with this.

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Amway

by enigma1863 in

i was curious, how many jws end up getting caught up in pyramid scemes like amway.

i was caught up in there online program quixstar for a little while several years ago.

i noticed there are several similarities between amway and a cult..

Chaserious

Melaleuca was another big one that a bunch of witnesses were involved in. Some local dunces did some kind of presentation to my parents but they ended up not getting involved, thankfully. Talk about a cult within a cult.

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Jw's and the third branch of government

by trujw in

i have always wanted to ask a jw how many branches of government their are?

most likley they would be hard pressed to know that there are three.

then i would like to ask why is it ok to run and participate in one branch proudly ( the judicial) but have nothing to do with the other two.

Chaserious

Because the judicial branch is (supposedly) not political. He wasn't a real judge anyway. Sober Joe was a substitute judge one time, for what would be the equivalent today of a municipal court that hears traffic tickets and shoplifting charges. Also it was before he became a Russellite.

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JW's Sandy Respond Show off

by pixel in

this just post on their website:.

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http://www.jw.org/en/news/by-region/americas/united-states/video-clip-hurricane-sandy-relief/.

Chaserious

Take away #2 (after I finished drying my tears): Your generous donations are hard at work flying WT heavy Gary Breaux (pronounced "Bro") in a chopper all along the New Jersey coast. You might protest that this helicopter ride is unnecessary, but that's where you would be wrong. He was using his new JW-detector 3400 goggles to detect JW houses to swoop down upon and repair. A lack of nearby landing pad is not a problem. As long as the next door neighbor is not a JW, the WTChopper1 is authorized to land on top of the debris of their houses. Unless it's a really nice one that can be rebuilt and appropriated for JW-use after the big A when its occupants are destroyed. You go Breaux!

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JW's Sandy Respond Show off

by pixel in

this just post on their website:.

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http://www.jw.org/en/news/by-region/americas/united-states/video-clip-hurricane-sandy-relief/.

Chaserious

Take away: If you have no valuable skill and would just rather do "keep it in the family" disaster relief than go out in field service, you too can be part of a 15 person human conveyor belt for carrying garbage 20 feet from the house to the garbage truck. Maybe the contractors will learn a thing or two from this operation.

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Will the 'Make Good Use of Our Official Website' discussion backfire?

by jw07 in

good day everyone,.

i'm a born in jehovah's hostage, and am still a hostage until i can wake my family up (wishful thinking i know).

i'll formally introduce myself later.. for now i have some burning concerns about the service meeting part for the week of december 24, 2012.

Chaserious

Maisha: I'm not sure I understand what you are proposing? Are you suggesting Typosquatting?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typosquatting

That doesn't tend to work out too well. I don't understand what you are suggesting about the two letter domain name, also. New domains have to be three letters or more, but existing ones were grandfathered in:

aa.com (american airlines)

ge.com (GE)

db.com (Deutsche Bank)

un.org (United Nations)

And many more, I'm sure...

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Need advice. My inactive jw husband has been lured back.

by ingimar in

Chaserious

Welcome, and best of luck with this. As someone who is not a JW, there is no reason you can't do your own research and present it to him, even if it would be considered "apostate" by JWs. If he tries to use the buzzword, try to explain to him that you are trying to learn both sides of the JW doctrine with an open mind, and whatever label he wants to put on certain reasoning, the most important part is what is correct. I think the books that were mentioned were a good start, but I think specifically what logic you use depends on what kind of person he is and what attracts him to JWs. Some JWs are really into the prophesy and doctrine (and I think a large percentage of those are the ones who end up here, lol). If he is into the detail of bible chronology, prophesy, etc, I think the best ammunition is the sheer frequency with which they change their interpretations of these. It's enough to make your head spin. There is plenty about that here and on the other Truth about JW sites & blogs.

But for a large portion of other JWs, it's enough for them to wave their hands and assume all of the "deeper" doctrine is true, because they enjoy the social aspect of it, or they are under the impression that the JWs are "cleaner", "happier" or whatever, or the glitzy prospect of living forever on earth is too good to pass up (even if it does sound a little too good to be true). It can be a little harder, because this group tends to not care about or even understand the doctrine, so proving its foolishness is not going to help. I think if this is the case, it's a combination between discovering the underlying reason he feels some kind of need, and exposing the cracks in the armor. Things like the families they break up through shunning, the intellecutual growth they stunt by discouraging education, the lives lost due to the blood policy and former policies that have now been tossed away, like vaccines and organ transplants. Not to mention the change in the blood policy where they now take all kinds of things that are part of blood, like hemoglobin, which is almost the entire red blood cell. They love to use the illustration that if you were told to abstain from alcohol, would you inject it in your veins? What about if you had a peanut allergy, would you eat peanut butter, peanut brittle, and things made with peanut oil? Would he want you to be left a widow if he got sick and needed a transfusion because of following this organization's strict, but ever changing blood policy? If they change their policy in 5 years like they have done lots of times before, will he have died for God or died for his Watchtower leaders?