Eh, I don't think money is the reason at all. They banned most of the holdays before they were really commercial like they are today. i think it's more about control and convincing members that they are in a special club that is the only one that knows these things are wrong. If it was just about economics, why would they tell people not to work overtime so they can peddle magazines instead? My father could have worked overtime every Saturday when I was growing up and made about $100-$150 per week extra, but he didn't so he could go knock on doors that nobody answered. The reality is that nobody is going to have a holiday pot of money and just donate it all to the WTS because of not celebrating holidays and other stuff. Never once in my time "in" did I make a donation because I saved money on something else. A lot of JWs are cheap and probably view it as a tradeoff with all the miles and gas they spend driving around in field service, money spend traveling to assemblies and conventions and all the other wastes of money for the WTS. For my family, we save more by not travelling to meetings, FS & conventions and donations than it costs us to celebrate holidays and birthdays.
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Watchtower potentially receives at least $2.1 Billion a year in revenue by prohibiting holidays, etc...
by Calebs Airplane inso we all know that the main reason the watchtower corporation prohibits holidays, extra-curricular sports, higher education, etc.
is that this money could potentially become "voluntary donations" with just a little guilting and manipulation.
in the minds of the brooklyn brass, money that isn't spent on all this worldly stuff is potential liquid revenue (at least some of it anyway).. now let's go extremely conservative for a minute and say that the average "worldly" person only spends a total of $300 a year on christmas, birthdays, st. valentines, father's day, mother's day, extracurricular school sports, higher education, and all the other stuff that the wt frowns upon.... we all know that the real number is much higher than $300.
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Memorial Day for JW , is that a make or break day for jehovahs Witnesses who have suffered physical and sexual abuse in this organisation
by smiddy inthe jehovahs witnesses celebrate the lords evening meal this day ,are they also going to celebrate the vindication of a victim of child sexual abuse ?.
or are they going to celebrate yet again a judicial system that fails to come to grips with a religous body that sexually /physically abuses children .. we wait with baited breath.
smiddy.
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Chaserious
I think you will still be waiting after Tuesday - it's just a brief that's due. The judicial system isn't going to make a decision on the appeal until probably sometime towards the end of the year.
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Big Bang Theory Confirmed with Planck Telescope...
by mP infor s&r.
i'm not allowed to start a new thread for another 14 hours, can one of you lovely people do a thread based on this awesome news.... big bang theory confirmed with planck telescope.... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9946222/new-images-confirm-big-bang-theory.html.
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Chaserious
What does this discovery have to do with whether God is confirmed or not. It seems really off topic.
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When did they do the swap at the DC's?
by zed is dead ini just notice in the 2013 district convention program that:.
the public talk is in the sunday morning seesion.
and the drama is sunday afternoon.
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Chaserious
They have been doing the drama in the afternoon for 5-6 years now. I think they figured out some people were leaving after the drama.
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JW women in critical condition after being attacked by pit bull while out in service
by JimmyPage inhttp://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20130319_11_0_twowom831238.
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Chaserious
No, the dog wasn't doing its duty as trained. If it was, it was trained recklessly. This homeowner will be hit with a negligence suit for sure, at least if she has homeowner's insurance. You can't have a dog trained to viciously attack anyone who the owner opens the door to without any sign of aggression. What if it had been the local girl scout troop or someone getting political petitions signed or a delivery man?
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How do I as a future "Therapist" help ex-jws that won't move on from the WT?
by booker-t ini am halfway through my master's program in psychology/sociology and plan on being a therapist/sounselor.
i left jw's in 1988 and i have never looked back.
i enjoy my life so much after getting my aa degree, then my ba degree, and now i will soon get my ma degree.
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Chaserious
My advice would be to stop diagnosing people with problems without having met them.
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Are there more XJWs than JWs?
by punkofnice in......well, that's my question.. i have no stats to back anything up.
just putting it out there for thoughts/comments..
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Chaserious
Just my own guess... if you count born-in kids and faders, yes and it's not even close. If you only count DF'd/DA'd former JWs, no.
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Suspected Jehovah's Witnesses attacked by pitbull in the preaching work
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtrdafq0xac.
i guess this sort of thing is bound to happen, even though the society implies that angels are out there protecting jehovah's witnesses from harm.. interestingly, it wasn't an angel who came to the rescue, but a "worldly" bystander with his gun.. .
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Chaserious
It seems to me that at times there is a temptation to use tragedies to try to further the ex-JW agenda of proving Watchtower doctrine wrong, and in my opinion by using an apostate strawman argument at that.
Yes, they pump up the experiences when someone (allegedly) escapes harm when they are at the meeting instead of staying home. But JWs are never directly told (nor in my own anecdotal experience do many actually believe) that they have physical immunity from harm while preaching.
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Suspected Jehovah's Witnesses attacked by pitbull in the preaching work
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtrdafq0xac.
i guess this sort of thing is bound to happen, even though the society implies that angels are out there protecting jehovah's witnesses from harm.. interestingly, it wasn't an angel who came to the rescue, but a "worldly" bystander with his gun.. .
cedars.
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Chaserious
http://newsok.com/gallery/articleid/3767428/pictures/1985482
It seems that there was a sign. I knew a lot of witnesses who wouldn't go to a door with a beware of dog sign. I never observed anyone pressured into going, other than sometimes a female would ask if a male in the group wanted to go instead.
Personally, I find the thinly veiled gloating over this kind of thing rather distasteful. The same thing happened with the bus crash where several were killed. To be fair, I very rarely came across anyone during my time "in" who felt they were invincible or magically protected while in JW-sponsored activities, say what you want about the ridiculous illustrations in the rags.
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Jehovah generously provides?
by Rattigan350 inthe june 15 2013 w pg 13, para 6&7 has an experience of a pioneer that needed $66 to pay her rent the next day.
she prayed and went to work at her job as a waitress.
when she finished her shift she had received a total of $66 in tips.
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Chaserious
This is one of the most moronic experiences yet. $66 is probably right around the average amount of tips a server makes during an average shift at a crappy restaurant. Since when is God responsible for average and mediocre results? It's like thanking Jahoover that your Chrysler got 23 miles to the gallon on the way to the assembly.