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  Is the Watchtower a Communist front?

  by bytheirworks in

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  in the chinese language you have 2 versions: traditional & simplified.. ever since the watchtower opened a field office in hong kong, they have made the watchtower study magazines into two versions: traditional & simplified.. the watchtower's communist roots go back further than that.

  charles taze russel in his early watch tower (notice there is a difference between watch tower aka guard tower.... & watchtower aka enochian magic, aka justice league, aka league of the just men 1834, aka communist league 1847) predicted some 36 years in advance that there would be a communist revolution in russia.

  it was called many things but in 1918 it was officially called a communist revolution, exactly around the time when the government began arresting rutherford.. when you do the research you find that the last communist meeting was held in allegheny pennsylvania, exactly where & when russel began his watch tower.. don't you find it strange that the watchtower is able to produce so many worker bee jw's, who operate like mindless robots???.

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  Chaserious

  Cool story
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  Religioulous

  by snare&racket in

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  not sure how many here have watched this... but make a coffee and make the time to do so.... its edutainment ;) .

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  http://youtu.be/e2zhldbmfdg.

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  Chaserious

  I thought it was amusing, and some of the targets deserved the mockery, like the gay therapy guy (my personal favorite), the theme park people, and "Dr." Cummings. I found treatment of some of the other subjects to be mean-spirited, like the truckers at the roadside chapel and the Jewish man who converted to Christianity. I get that his point is that none of it is harmless, but even as a skeptic I can't really get on board with making fun of people's sincere beliefs when they aren't pushing it on others.
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  Peace and Security - When?

  by rhodesboy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my interpretation of gb (governing body) theology has illuminated a fate for mankind in the near future.

  i invite you to read the following extracts and my analysis thereafter- theologists only please.. 1 thessalonians 5:3.

  ''whenever it is that they are saying: "peace and security!

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  Chaserious

  This is all assuming that "the time of the end" is referring to the 21st century, which doesn't seem to be based on any plausible evidence. It also calls for the assumption that the King of the North in Daniel is any more real than the King of the North in Game of Thrones.
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  A little Update... Going back to school.

  by dazed but not confused in

  1. social
  2. current

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  im going back to school tomorrow.

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  Chaserious

  Great news, Dazed. Best of luck with school!
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  Article: Ten Legal Risks Facing Churches and Church Leaders, by Richard Hammar

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://enrichmentjournal.ag.org/200401/200401_78_legalrisks.cfm.

  ten legal risks facing churches and church leaders.

  by richard r. hammar.

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  Chaserious

  I understand why some people think that because the doctrines are nonsensical, WT legal policies must be foolish also, but I'm not sure that's the case. As with any big organization, the goal is not eliminating legal liability; that's not going to happen. The goal is to reduce exposures to a comfortably small percentage of revenue and to be able to budget for it. The large reliance on volunteers mostly, if not totally, eliminates employment law exposure. The proportion of JWs who the society is liable for on an agency basis is also smaller than most other religions. For example, if a Catholic Priest caused a car accident while driving around making visits to shut-in parishoners, the diocese would be liable since the Priest is an agent. For the society to be liable, it would have to rise to the level of a circuit overseer or bethelite doing the same thing - they would never be liable without their own negligence for elders or MS running around doing JW business. They also don't have formal counseling or children's programs, and no official elder or MS business involves any one-on-one time with children, so I am not sure that they would be liable merely for not conducting background checks. The only activity where one might be alone with a child would be field service, but that's not activity specific to being appointed - all JWs go in field service.

  On top of all this, add the culture of JWs not feeling free to bring lawsuits against JW entities if they want to remain as a member. There is no way to know for sure, but I would be very surprised if Watchtower's average annual payout for legal settlements, judgments and liability insurance, as a percentage of total revenue, was not one of the lowest of all centrally organized religions in the U.S.
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  Article: Ten Legal Risks Facing Churches and Church Leaders, by Richard Hammar

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://enrichmentjournal.ag.org/200401/200401_78_legalrisks.cfm.

  ten legal risks facing churches and church leaders.

  by richard r. hammar.

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  Chaserious

  Really, the Watchtower keeps themselves out of a lot of these risks by having virtually no church employees at the local level, and no formal church activities other than meetings and field service. When you can offer men the opportunity to play executive by doing elder and MS work, and the prestige among members of a highly controlled group that comes with it, you can get them to do it for free.
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  A sad day for a JW- they lost a study 'cause of me.

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few weeks ago i posted a topic about a deaf woman studying with the jw's.

  the deaf preacher from the woman's parents church contacted me to know more about the jw's because the parents were allowing their daughter to study with the jw's because "they are such nice people.

  " anyway the deaf preacher contacted me because he knows i just left the jw's last year and he wanted information.. i was more than happy to provide it.

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  Chaserious

  Did you show him the Watchtower's stance on masturbation by the deaf?
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  ALBUQUERQUE | Child Sexual Abuse Case Filed Against Former Jehovah's Witness Elder Michael Brunner

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  child sexual abuse case filed against former jehovah's witness elder michael brunner.

  an albuquerque woman filed a lawsuit claiming a church leader sexually abused her as a child.. monica jaramillo said michael brunner, an elder at the jehovah's witness church in los lunas, sexually abused her when she was just 8 years old.. jaramillo, now 35, filed a lawsuit claiming other elders of the church knew about the incident but chose to do nothing.. the complaint also alleges jaramillo's mother was raped by brunner.. jehovah's witnesses in los lunas told kob eyewitness news 4 that brunner left the congregation years ago.. .

  video news interview: http://www.kob.com/article/stories/s3130582.shtml?cat=500.

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  Chaserious

  It's very sad that there are so many victims of this type of abuse that might have been preventable. Worth noting as well that the Watchtower society is named as a defendant in this case.
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  employment question

  by XstuckX in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello everyone, this is my first post.

  i've been lurking for awhile.

  a little background...i've been a jw all my life.

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  Chaserious

  Truthhurts... what you posted about the Uniform Commercial Code doesn't make sense. Are you one of the folks who has been convinced that you are a "sovereign citizen?"
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  employment question

  by XstuckX in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello everyone, this is my first post.

  i've been lurking for awhile.

  a little background...i've been a jw all my life.

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  Chaserious

  Go and see a local attorney if at all possible before you leave/go public with your doubts and tell him/her that you are almost certain you will be fired if you leave the religion. It's much better to be proactive when you know you are going to get fired than to get legal advice after the fact. It's not always going to be easy to come up with enough evidence for a wrongful termination case, but it's usually going to be easier to gather evidence you might need later while you are still on the inside than after you've been shown the door.