I started my 401k when I was 22 and still in. It just seemed like giving away free money not to contribute when my employer at the time would match what I put in. Still, 46 is better than never. There are still a lot of people who rely on just SS & medicare.
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At what age did you begin retirement planning
by Zoos ini am 46. i just started a 401k three months ago.. .
not long ago, while i was still "in", the topic of 401s came up between me and a coworker.
he asked if i was plugged in and i said, "no.
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we haven't heard from 3 members
by gma-tired2 ini havent read any posts from gojira, newly enlightened, and brother of hawk.
i hope they are well just know they have been unusually quiet..
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Chaserious
Their activity seems to have dropped off right after Brother of the Hawk started his last thread, which wasn't received very well here. Maybe it has something to do with that. I believe they are all family, right?
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Justitia passes bar!!!
by crmsicl inyay...my awesome friend justitia just found out last night she passed the bar exam.
regardless of how you may feel about her you gotta admit that is an accomplishment..
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Chaserious
Congrats
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What is new about the Candace Conti trial
by smiddy inwhats new in the latest developments.
smiddy.
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Chaserious
Smiddy, it's true there are a lot of things that are fair to criticize about the U.S. legal system. But one thing that I think it's important to remember is that the U.S. system is far more friendly to private tort plaintiffs seeking money damages than just about anywhere else. I think it's safe to say that if these facts were replicated in any other major country, Ms. Conti would have never been awarded a judgment of millions of dollars against the WTS in the first place. One of the tradeoffs that plaintiffs give up in exchange for broad rights to sue is that defendants also have broad rights to appeal.
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What is new about the Candace Conti trial
by smiddy inwhats new in the latest developments.
smiddy.
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Chaserious
There will probably be an opinion released by the California appeals court sometime in the Spring. That may or may not be a conclusion. It is possible that the losing party could appeal to be heard by the CA Supreme Court, who may or may not agree to hear the case. It's also possible that the appeals court could order a new trial, which could take some time to occur, and then THAT trial could be subject to appeal. Or the decision of this appeals court could be the last word. No one really knows right now.
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Candace Conti case updated
by gingerbread ini just received an email notification from the california appellate court hearing the wt appeal of the conti case:.
the case has been fully briefed.. the case is on the conference list.. the oral argument waiver notice has been sent.. .
i'm not well versed in the process or these terms.
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Chaserious
The chances are essentially zero that this case ever gets to SCOTUS. State Supreme Courts decide thousands and thousands of cases every year, almost all of which are important in some way and costly to litigate. Out of the thousands of losing parties, most of whom would want SCOTUS to hear their cases if possible, the number that SCOTUS takes is in the neighborhood of 15 per year. Most of the cases SCOTUS takes come up through the federal courts, not the state courts. The state cases that do get accepted tend to be important constitutional issues that state supreme courts have disagreed on.
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Candace Conti case updated
by gingerbread ini just received an email notification from the california appellate court hearing the wt appeal of the conti case:.
the case has been fully briefed.. the case is on the conference list.. the oral argument waiver notice has been sent.. .
i'm not well versed in the process or these terms.
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Chaserious
Fully briefed means that all of the written arguments that are allowed have now been submitted by both sides. It's a total of three briefs - the defendants filed an opening brief, Conti's lawyers filed an answer brief, and then the defendants filed a reply brief. Oral argument waiver just means the parties can voluntarily forego in-person argument before the appeals panel. It's not uncommon for parties in some cases to let the judges decide "on the papers" and have the court make a decision without oral argument, so the court tries to get parties to waive to lighten their argument calendar. The parties probably won't waive in this case.
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Education Double Standard
by Tech49 inthis is the kind of thing that really burns me.. .
wtbts holds out an extreme double standard in regards to education.
most, if not all, of you know how they feel about obtaining an education past high school (in the u.s.).
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Chaserious
Definitely a big double standard. There was a brother in my congregation years ago who actually had an engineering degree and became a JW when he was in his early-mid 20's not long after graduating college. He got married and he and his wife got recruited to move to Bethel. I got the sense they didn't really like it that much and Bethel really kissed their asses to get them to stay. He got appointed as a Bethel elder very quickly, they got a nice room with a great view, he got a corner office with a view of Manhattan, and the wife got taken off her cleaning job after a short time and got assigned to an easy office job. There has to be a real shortage of people with that kind of education thanks to their double standard. But this couple left after a few years anyway. I can't imagine how the rank and file Bethelites felt who didn't get all the amenities because they followed the WT counsel on education while the educated ones get the preferred treatment. You have to really be indocrinated to be able to swallow or ignore the double standard.
I gave up a full scholarship to stay in the WT as well. Of course, I wasn't allowed to move away to the school that offered it to me. Probably should have cut ties right then. As it turned out, I had to take night classes well into my mid-20s that I mostly paid for myself to get my BA. Even so, I count myself as happy and fortunate to have gotten out relatively early.
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What is the stand/view of the JWs regarding the Illuminati and conspiracy theory?
by UBM101 ini mean.... are the dubs pretty much supporters of the conspiracy theory (watching videos, researching etc) or do they avoid such materials/topics?
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Chaserious
If there is an illuminati conspiracy, why didn't Ray Franz out it? Wouldn't governing body members know about this alleged secret control? Or was his exit and expose all part of the conspiracy?
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Candice Conti
by zound inwatchtowers brief due today?.
can anyone explain to me how to get the briefs from the californian court website?
i need to direct a jw to the website to get the breifs but not really sure how to get them myself.. .
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Chaserious
144,001 is correct about the brief that's due this week. They probably won't have it for a few days at least. I meant that the two opening briefs have already been obtained by jwleaks and posted there. As for legal databases like Lexisnexis and Westlaw, I do have access to these but the Conti briefs did not get posted there, and usually will not be made available for state appeals cases. They typically will only put the eventual written opinion of the appeals court in the database. Sometimes they have the briefs available for federal appeals cases. Just didn't want anyone to waste their time trying to open an account for this.