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  Elders on the edge of Violence

  by i8emallup in

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  2. friends

  as i read one letter from a judicial committee, which letter accused an individual of expressing violent thoughts about an unpunished.

  child molester, i remembered 2 incidents where elders had revealed violent attack fantasies.. the po of my former congregation in wall, nj told me that he would like to "beat [a certain disfellowshipped wife of an elder] out .

  of her chair" when she appeared at the kingdom hall.. .

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  joannadandy

  Going Elder on someone!! LOL

  Too FUNNY!

  Well Jehovah is a "vengeful God" I am sure they will find some means to justify it if an elder did go postal.

  Do you suppose "He went Elder" will replace "He went postal?"
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  The WTS & the Pyramid of Paradox

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the 1859 publication of john taylor's book, "the great pyramid: why was it built?

  and who built it?

  " ushered in the late 19th century diversion called "modern pyramidology.

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  joannadandy

  Wow--

  Really interesting...laughable...and slightly scary.

  Could I ask where you found this information? I'd like to read more, Thanks!
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  I did something really stupid.... :(

  by Eppie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey,.

  ok, i need all the advice i can get...... last week i told my sister (she is jw, as is my entire family) that i did something stupid.

  i had just broken up with my boyfriend because he was cheating on me.... and in some kind of drunk-revenge-mood i slept with his best friend..... .

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  joannadandy

  I would like to think that your sister will uphold her bonds of sisterhood before she upholds some self-righteous ideas of piety and turns you in.

  How well do you know your sister?

  I say you let it sit until she makes the first move, if she doesn't make a move--woo-hoo! You are more important than some stupid religion. If she does make a move--that's sad that she can sell you out like that, but I am going to have agree witheveryone else, and say deny it.
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  Who Will Be Resurrected??

  by teenyuck in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to the jw's, the men of sodom will be; no, that is wrong, they will not be; no, they will be...... i got this off of the website: .

  http://www.catholic.com/library/stumpers_for_jehovah_witnesse.asp.

  the men of sodom will be resurrected (wt, 7-1879, 7-8).

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  joannadandy

  Ok I was watching a show about Siamese Twins the other day with my JW parents. These two infant girls shared a bad heart which meant they couldn't be seperated and would probably die.

  While we were all touched by the sad scene when they did infact die, my mother said, "well that's why there will be a resurrection."

  And I asked "Ok if Jehovah brings them back, will they be sperated then?"

  She replied "well of course"

  Ok does anyone know where the scripture is about the resurection of the Siamese Twins, and particularly the part about them being separated. Just curious, I don't recall it myself.
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  i have been seeing a jw

  by chineseprincess in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  for about 2 months i have been seeing a jw male.

  he is as sweet as can be.

  he just makes my heart melt.

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  joannadandy

  Princess you don't have to run.
  A non-jw I was dating was the reason I was able to get up the courage to finally leave.

  I had been "bad" and secretly dated lots of "wordly boys". I was even convinced every time that I could convert/save them, and in time they would know it was the "truth". The thing I realized was, I didn't even know if it was the "truth" so how the hell could I convince someone else. It was eventually this double standard in my life, pointed out to me by the non-jw I was dating that got me to really think about what I wanted for a change.

  In the end it wasn't a preacher coming to talk to me that convinced me to change. (I had had non-jw boyfriends try that tactic with me too, that only made me go into attack mode.) It was just him pointing out to me that I wasn't doing what my religion told me to do, if I couldn't even follow the simple rules how happy could it be making me? He was so right.

  If you really are attached, don't run, but it's not going to be easy by any means. You need to ask yourself if he is worth it, if the young relationship you have is worth it, etc. Because you are going to have to fight for it. And it's not going to be pretty. But who knows he might actually come around, and you could be the one to end up saving him!

  Best of luck to you on whatever you choose!
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  The friends, the truth and loaded language

  by detective in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as many people already know, using the term "the truth" to describe an organization's teachings is a brilliant way to constantly reaffirm it's validity subconsciously.

  it's a great use of repetition to establish as fact that which is only opinion.. i keep hearing the phrase "the friends".

  aside from the fact that i really don't like the terminology, i couldn't help but wonder if this isn't just another use of repetition and loaded language to enforce the belief that all of the people who share the same religion actually are your friends.. in some ways, i think it would be beneficial for some folks to drop "the truth" and "the friends" from their vocabulary so that they aren't continuing to immerse themselves in group-lingo that's intended to elicit certain emotional responses and associations.. what other loaded language can you come up with that is quasi-specific to jehovah's witnesses?

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  joannadandy

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  "Yo Tony, Brother Fraido hadn't place any of dem magazines dis week, I think it's time to take 'em for a drive. I'm nawt tawlkin about no car group neither, if you get my meanin."

  D8ta you are my hero!!
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  "and “Without spot” will mean that I’m just missing my dog!"

  Matty I love you!!
  Too funny!!
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  Ok my own personal favorite and I can't believe no one mentioned it yet--"Babylon the Great"
  (Frankly I am of the opinion that anyone with Great in their name can't be that bad.)
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  JW becoming normal religion

  by Realist in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  am i wrong or is there a trend to make the wt to a normal religion?

  first they gave up to predict who the new king of the north is.

  then they stopped predicting the end of the world.

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  joannadandy

  HAHAHA
  Bj Ban lifted!
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  Letter to Dateline from WBTS

  by staceman in

  1. social
  2. current

  this may have already been posted, but here is a link to the letter written to dateline rejecting the offer for an on-camera interview.

  and the reasons why...... .

  http://www.jw-media.org/releases/rgreenberg020702.pdf

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  joannadandy

  Since when has the organization ever been of the "same mind"?
  Example:
  "You can't ever talk to Df'd people"
  "A quick hello is ok, but nothing else-and only if you HAVE to"
  "You can talk to them as long as no one finds out."
  "You can talk to df'd family members."
  "No you can't."
  (all things I was told growing about df'd people)
  And you'll never get a straight answer from anyone.
  Hasn't anyone ever thought that DIALOUGE is a way to work out differences, and come to an understanding, rather than smug scriptural quotations in a brief business letter?
  Or maybe it's because they know they haven't got a leg to stand on, and they would sound as pathetic as the catholic clergy does right now on this same issue if they tried to explain themselves.
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  JWS slave class deaths

  by formoretax in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is my first post and i offer thanks for all of your thoughts, some of which are almost as crazy as my own.. i ran away at age 14 to escape and have never looked back.

  the decision was difficult but nothing by comparison to the trauma which followed.

  this organization is "evil" in all of its ways and should not be allowed to grow.

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  joannadandy

  I haven't heard about Malwai...how do I find out more?

  By the by-when I was a JW, I remember after leaving a convention where we had just finished hearing upteen stories about refugees staying strong, people walking 1500 miles to go to one meeting through war zones-(all to show us bastard americans how easy we have it) my father (who has been a witness for 25 years said) "If I hear one more story about a double amputee who bartered his legs for bus fair to get to a bookstudy I may be ill"
  Good Old Dad...he knows it's bogus too...maybe someday he will leave...
  
  Anyway I went on a tangent sorry...and not to detract from what was orginally said, I seriously would like more info on what really happened...
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  A Plea For Responsible Reporting

  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many hundreds of people read this site who are not subscribed, and i would suspect that the vast majority are jw's looking for answers to an internal turmoil that they may be living with.. the information posted on this board does get read and then passed among many congregations of jw's.

  this information is a powerful force and is a wonderful thing for those who are seeking to be informed, and a not so wonderful thing to those in brooklyn who are seeking to harness the boundaries of knowledge.. given this scenario, and how much credibility can be lost by xjw's who perpetuate gossip and innuendo, can we check our sources and facts very carefully before we post information to this board.

  there is no particular nobility in being first with news about some aspect of wts life.

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  joannadandy

  First of all, I am totally new here.
  I didn't know such a wonderful forum existed.
  Second-Hill: You're one well spoken person. I appreciated everything you said, and you handled some touchy areas with grace.
  As someone who just left the dubs, I do want to vent. I do want to hear what is going on behind closed doors in the organization and never talked about,(my eyes are just starting to be opened) I do want to find people who shared the same emotional trauma that I did.
  But venting does not have to equal slander, lies, opinion, and insinuation. I think Hill's main point, and excellent one that people should carry in every aspect of their lives-not just on this board, is that we should be objective. Not to get carried away with emotions. JW are decryed all the time on here for not opening their eyes to facts. Aren't we doing the same if we believe everything people post on here.
  C'mon people this is the internet--you shouldn't even trust your own grandmother!