Posts by stuckinamovement

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Choices you have to make after you learn the "truth"

by stuckinamovement in

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choices.

by my nature i am not a negative person.

should i live my life as a hypocritical, tortured pretender, or stand up for what is right and lose my reputation, friends and family?

Choices you have to make after you learn the "truth"

by stuckinamovement in

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choices.

by my nature i am not a negative person.

should i live my life as a hypocritical, tortured pretender, or stand up for what is right and lose my reputation, friends and family?

By my nature I am not a negative person. I have always been one to look at the bright side of a bad situation or express optimism for the future. Throughout my whole life I have shown love for what is right and hated people and organizations who are hypocrites. I have always tried to do what I think is right and now I have the responsibility of teaching my kids to do the same.

Over the past two years I have become critical and negative towards an organization that professes to be perfect and directed by God. I feel that my anger is directed not at the people within the organization but at the actual doctrines,structure and policies of the organization. The same organization that taught me to speak out against unrighteousness and hypocrisy has by its own policies, directives, and threats, forced me to become a concealer of its own unrighteousness and hypocrisy. The ironic part of the situation is that even though I am aware of the corruption and believe that the organization is not directed by God, I must pretend and outwardly profess that it is clean, pure, true and spirit directed.

Choice 1 -

Remain a Witness and ignore what I know about the Society. For the rest of my life pretend to believe that God speaks to the Governing Body and that I agree with all of the organizations teachings even as they change. Even though I feel strongly that the organization is corrupt and should be destroyed, ignore this and teach my children that the corrupted organization is actually the only means to salvation for mankind. Pretend to believe that 1914 is correct, and teach my kids that the only way to life is to attach ourselves loyally to the Governing Body. Go out in the ministry regularly and try to convince people to come into an organization that I feel is not directed by God. Even though this is hypocritical, this is what is necessary to keep appearances up.

By being hypocritical, ignoring logic and reason I will be able to keep my reputation, my friends and my family. I will have peace of sorts within my household. The key is to throw out my personal integrity, and disconnect my brain.

Choice 2-

Leave Quietly. Phase out my activity, without any explanation to the elders. When asked; refuse to go into specifics. Refuse to teach wrong doctrine to my children. Teach them to stand up for what is right despite the consequences. Lose my friends and family because I no longer support the corrupted organization. Have the ones that I love obediently shun me at the orders from the organization. Have deep pain inside at this loss. Gain a measure of joy because of holding to my personal integrity.

If my wife stays with the organization, become prepared for my kids to be taught by the organization that I don’t love Jehovah and will die at Armageddon. Look at my children’s heart break as they are told that their friends can’t come over anymore because their daddy doesn’t love Jehovah.

Knowing the truth about the Watchtower Society has put me in the uncomfortable position of either losing my friends and family or losing my integrity. To keep quiet about what I know is wrong within the organization is to silence my mind and heart, and pretend to believe something that I feel is fundamentally wrong.

So, what choice is better? Should I live my life as a hypocritical, tortured pretender, or stand up for what is right and lose my reputation, friends and family?

These are the tough choices that many of us faders are having to make. No matter what your situation is in regards to this religion, it sucks. If you are active, you are mislead and duped. If you are fading you are tortured. If you have been disfellowshipped you are no doubt lonely and hurt and angry. This religion brings you nothing but pain and heartache.

SIAM

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One sick-O needs to be put down.

by jam in

for those that have not heard about mr.mark berndt, a. third- grade teacher who is charged with committing.

lewd acts on 23 boys and girls 6 to 10 between 2005. and 2010 where he taught for more than 30 years.. a game was played were he would blind-fold the kids.

and give the kids (sick) a spoon with his semen.

stuckinamovement

They should cut him up one piece at a time. A gunshot is too humane for this piece of shit. There are too many of these bastards around. Why waste taxpayer resources housing and feeding these animals?

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Advanced Medical Directive for EXPECTANT MOMS?

by Joojoobean in

i hear there is a maternity medical directive pregnant jws give to their obs.

can anyone get me a pdf for this?

i'd curious to know exactly what it says.. [someone's posted about this on jwrecovery].

stuckinamovement

If I remember right, here in the US there was a letter to boe about 2 years ago encouraging expectant moms to review an awake article and contact the hlc as a precaution.

Siam

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i spoke with an elder about university

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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he always tells me that i've adopted him as a father...we're pretty close.

i spoke with him asking for some advice about whether or not to pursue my degree.he, to my surprise, couldn't give me his opinion.he told me that if he tells me how he really feels (he says he has some strong views on the matter) he may be disciplined for 'promoting higher education'....in effect he was telling me to go ahead and pursue my degree but not really saying it.

he asked me to promise him that i'll speak to the presiding overseer and the circuit overseer....i haven't as yet.

stuckinamovement

The last KM school had a talk on how elders are not to encourage or even condone higher ed. If you are an elder who has children going to college your qualifications to serve are automatically reviewed by the BOE.

This is why he was hesitant to speak freely.

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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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i'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.

i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.

stuckinamovement

Hang in there MsGrowing girl. You are at the same point as my wife. It is hard to come to the realization that the Society is simply another man made organization that has used the scriptures to further its own means. You might have sleepless nights and be very confused for a period of months.

One thing that I have heard a lot recently is the question: "Doesn't the quality of people within the organization prove that this is God's Organization? The are many Brothers and sisters who have made incredible changes in their lives." My response is that these type of people have made changes in their lives not because of an organization but because of their desire to please god. There is no connection to the organization in the changes they made. It is simply because they chose to follow Bible principles, which interestingly is not exclusive to Witnesses. There are Mormons, Catholics, Hindus, and even Athiests who live good lives closely in line with the morals of the Bible wheteher they follow the Bible or not.

Anyway, take care. it is a lot to absorb all at once

SIAM

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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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i'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.

i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.

stuckinamovement

Welcome!

Learning the "truth" It is a process that takes a long time to come to grips with.

SIAm

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JW Children in Meetings

by blue_summmer20 in

hi my first post.. for the people that grew up in the religon, do you have any memory of being spanked for not sitting still in the meeting?

i see kids acting like kids but the parents take them out and spank them for something like not sitting still.

some of my worst memories are my father taking me out for a beating with a belt or his hand.

stuckinamovement

Part of the problem is the unrealistic expectations of the little ones. How can you expect a 2-7 year old to sit still through a 2hr monotone program? The kid fidgets (understandably) and then he or she is hauled out the door for a beating. On the other hand if you don't take your kid out for discipline then you get the stink eye from Brother and Sister Holy who wonder why you are not handling the child by giving him or her a spanking.

The kids and their parents are all set up to fail.

SIAM

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Bizarre statement in April 2012 Awake

by dozy in

as books go, it is tiny, but it is immeasurably great in its essence.

it can be carried in ones pocket,but if it were found in a library of 90,000 different books, it would probably turn out to be the most important one of them all.. wow a strong endorsement of the bible?

er no this is the wtbts we are talking about here.

stuckinamovement

@ nrfg Pretty good.

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Looking for ex-JW in Upstate NY

by Anony Mous in

anyone living in the upstate ny area?

i am looking for expert witnesses (ex-jw) to collaborate my story regarding jw doctrine.

i will pay for time lost, travel etc.

stuckinamovement

No problem. Hope it helps.