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A Born ins challenge to develop a "post cult" personality.
by stuckinamovement ina born ins challenge to develop a post cult personality.. mentally leaving the organization can be traumatic for a number of reasons.
one of the biggest challenges for born-ins in finding their pre cult personality is that our entire personalities are based on the religion.
there is no such thing as a pre cult personality for us.
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A Born ins challenge to develop a "post cult" personality.
by stuckinamovement ina born ins challenge to develop a post cult personality.. mentally leaving the organization can be traumatic for a number of reasons.
one of the biggest challenges for born-ins in finding their pre cult personality is that our entire personalities are based on the religion.
there is no such thing as a pre cult personality for us.
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stuckinamovement
Thanks Mickey that was interesting.
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Wacky Witness Parent Rules
by breakfast of champions inhere's one of my favorites:.
my mother used to make me turn sesame street off when "the count" came on because count dracula was a real person who was under satan's influence and drank blood.. what completely whacked out rules did your parents make for you growing up?.
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Anything disney because it had magic. I heard of one sister who's mom wouldn't let her look at Dr. Suess books, because in her words "he was obviously on drugs when he wrote them"
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Higher Education compared to sacrificing your child to Moloch!
by Vidqun inforthcoming attraction at the next circuit assembly.
for those that are interested in attending.
if you encourage your child to pursue higher education, you are sacrificing him or her to molech (cf.
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Yes of course educating our beloved children is the same as burning them alive in a ceremonial burnt offering to a demanding middle eastern deity. Makes sense to me. I wonder if I will be df'd for having a molech fund set up for my kids?
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New here...need some support
by Freeof1914 infirst of all i am happy to be here..this site has been an invaluable tool which helped me get to the point where i am today.
i was born and raised as a jehovah's witness and i am now 30 yrs old.
my entire family are die hard witnesses; pioneers, elders, bethel etc.
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No I am fading, I resigned as an elder a year ago. I have honest conversations with my wife as to what my doubts and concerns are. She shares most of the dounts and concerns. I attend about 50% of the meetings and have stopped service. She doesn't like where we are at spiritually, but after the last few years of regular discussion she is now considering jumping ship also.
It is tempting to blow it all up some times. I have a lot of friends and family that are in. It would be traumatic to them and myself. No matter how you go it is tough.
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New here...need some support
by Freeof1914 infirst of all i am happy to be here..this site has been an invaluable tool which helped me get to the point where i am today.
i was born and raised as a jehovah's witness and i am now 30 yrs old.
my entire family are die hard witnesses; pioneers, elders, bethel etc.
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stuckinamovement
Welcome. I am in the exact same position. It is devastating and it might be the biggest challenge your marriage ever goes through.
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A Born ins challenge to develop a "post cult" personality.
by stuckinamovement ina born ins challenge to develop a post cult personality.. mentally leaving the organization can be traumatic for a number of reasons.
one of the biggest challenges for born-ins in finding their pre cult personality is that our entire personalities are based on the religion.
there is no such thing as a pre cult personality for us.
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stuckinamovement
Hi Tornapart. I don't have the answer really but I empathize. Each of us needs to make a values based decision for ourselves as to what we decide to do. No matter what decision we make (whether to stay or leave), will be tough and knowing that fact going into the process will give you resolve. I don't think that it is a waste of time to try to reinvent ourselves at any stage of life. The older we are the harder it is though.
Your dilemma is the same as any other born in who realizes that their foundational beliefs are wrong. As an older one you just have less time to work with. Ask yourself the questions mentioned in the original post. I have a feeling that you are not as far off from being your "real self" as you think.
your bro SIAM
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A Born ins challenge to develop a "post cult" personality.
by stuckinamovement ina born ins challenge to develop a post cult personality.. mentally leaving the organization can be traumatic for a number of reasons.
one of the biggest challenges for born-ins in finding their pre cult personality is that our entire personalities are based on the religion.
there is no such thing as a pre cult personality for us.
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stuckinamovement
Thanks for the feedback. From your comments it is clear that I am not the only one trying to build a "post cult" personality. Looks like we are all in good company.
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A Born ins challenge to develop a "post cult" personality.
by stuckinamovement ina born ins challenge to develop a post cult personality.. mentally leaving the organization can be traumatic for a number of reasons.
one of the biggest challenges for born-ins in finding their pre cult personality is that our entire personalities are based on the religion.
there is no such thing as a pre cult personality for us.
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A “Born ins” challenge to develop a post cult personality.
Mentally leaving the organization can be traumatic for a number of reasons. One of the biggest challenges for born-ins in finding their “pre cult” personality is that our entire personalities are based on the religion. There is no such thing as a “pre cult” personality for us. Once you realize that the truth is a lie and that the things you have learned are false you look inside and realize that you are simply a shell of a person filled with sadness at being decieved.
As a “born in” you see the world in a very black and white way. Things are right or wrong, good or bad. Your personal conscience is not really your own, it is built on the mandates of some man in Brooklyn who has declared what is right and wrong for you. As a “born in” you accept that and never learn how to make a personal decision based on facts, logic or reason. You simply obey.
Your approach to the future is different from the people around you. You have always operated under the assumption that there is no real future for you in this world. Soon God was going to wipe away sickness, poverty and death and all of your problems would be over. This belief stunted your long term view and made goals such as financial stability, higher educational opportunities and retirement oddly unappealing despite the sound logic and rationale behind them.
As a “born in” you might have developed a social disability that prevents you from becoming too close to anyone who is “worldly”. This same disability at the same time affects your relationship with those within the faith. You are often times on guard about what you say and the thoughts that you express for fear that you become labeled as weak or bad association. All of your relationships are superficial at some level because inside you know that there might be the chance that you will have to cut-off a friendship if the organization demands it. Why get too close to someone that you might have to shun? This caution results in having few close friends that you can share honest thoughts and feelings with. This condition is tantamount to social purgatory or limbo at the best.
Complicating matters for many is the fact that loved ones are still trapped within the cult. For many of us these loved ones such as our husbands, wives, and children make the shell of a life that we have worth living. What do you do about this?
So since so much of your personality is based on the dogma of the organization it can be a challenge to start from scratch in building your own life. I am in that position as are many here. These are the questions that I ask myself to try to fill in this shell.
What do I love to do? What makes me laugh? Where do I want to be in 10 years, 20, or 30, or 50 (hopefully)? What type of people do I want to be friends with? What are personal qualities that I value? If I died today, what would I want people to say about me? How do I give back to my community in ways that are measurable? What can I do to make sure my kids are raised without a “cult personality”?
Hopefully one day I will be a person with a “post cult” personality. I want to be someone who looks for the best in others, who inspires others and who has more laugh wrinkles than frown lines. I want to live my life without fear and I want to die with dignity and no regrets.
It is a process I realize. I feel that many who are born ins are in the same position. The challenge is trying to figure out how to build a personality that never really existed?
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Mars hill church
by stuckinamovement inthis is interesting reading.
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/church-or-cult/content?oid=12172001.
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/faithbased/2012/02/mars_hill_pastor_mark_driscoll_faces_backlash_over_church_discipline_case_.html.
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This is interesting reading.
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/church-or-cult/Content?oid=12172001
I wonder what the average witnesses response would be to this article?
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