Posts by stuckinamovement

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A new member of the thinking class

by Captain Obvious in

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this is my first post on this forum, though it feels like i already know some of you here.

i have been lurking for a couple of months now, and i must say, there honestly seems to be more love and respect here than any forum i have ever seen on any forum of any kind.

i am 25 years old, married 3 years to my wonderful wife who is 22. we had a somewhat classic jw upbringing... which i now know has been our biggest problem.

stuckinamovement

Welcome! You will find friends here that know exactly what you are going through.

SIAM

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Menlo Park KH discussion in the WTS' eyes

by Magi in

after reading much on this scandal, we know that many if not all jws will not go out of there way to read up on this info.

does anyone know what the rumor in the congregations are about this topic?

i'm sure alot of them are just taken back by fellow witnesses taking the society to court, bringing reproach on god's name.

Of course its not a true rumor. I should have been more clear in my comment. the Watchtower only has one tactic for people who stand up to them. Attack their character with lies and rumors. I wish the Cobbs the best in this case. Juan you have a Pm

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Menlo Park KH discussion in the WTS' eyes

by Magi in

after reading much on this scandal, we know that many if not all jws will not go out of there way to read up on this info.

does anyone know what the rumor in the congregations are about this topic?

i'm sure alot of them are just taken back by fellow witnesses taking the society to court, bringing reproach on god's name.

stuckinamovement

The rumor being spread is that the brothers (Cobbs) went apostate and were trying to get the congregation publishers to follow them instead of the Society. I know because I heard it myself from an active elder in the general area.

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How Will the Society React to the Hundred Year Anniversary of 1914?

by slimboyfat in

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it's only a couple of years away now and what a headache it must present to the gb - providing they have given it much thought already.

there probably is no elegant way of presenting the hundred year long failure of the end to come; the fact that the "short period of time" of satan being cast down to the earth has now stretched beyond any credibility.

but they have to deal with it one way or another.

stuckinamovement

It will be something like this...

" Yes it was 100 hundred years ago that Jesus was enthroned in Kingdom power! The last 100 years of Christian activity have brought tremendous growth to the "house of god". There are many of us who greatly desire to see God's name sanctified, and want to see the wicked destroyed and paradise restored. Many of us have anticipated this event for many years. Some with a fleshly view might reason that 100 years is too long. Remember two things. 1. God sets his timetable. 2. Jehovah views 1000 years as merely one day.

It is vital friends that we always look to this momentous event in universal history and be greatful that God's Kingdom rules.

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NEW LAW Starting July 2012 in Qld Australia Preventing Door to Door Sales

by Hopscotch in

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i just read this in our local newspaper this morning and thought it is very interesting.

this law is aimed at door to door marketing by companies but i am wondering if this may end up including religious 'sales persons'.

the comments below the story are worth reading as jw's and religious callers are definitely who many people want stopped under this new law.. .

stuckinamovement

@ Gayle, the BOE was sent a letter in 2007 ( I think) that more or less said "if you go onto property posted as "no trespassing"" you are on your own, and we wont represent you with the legal issue". They would however represent the brothers in various freedom of speech issues like the Stratton vs Ohio case.

Now that I think of this, is this not the same as saying that the Society will "claim you as its representative" for freedom of speech issues but not as its representative for any other issue? Kind selective and typical

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The "worlds" view of the preaching work- pretty accurate

by stuckinamovement in

true story ........so i was standing in line at the hardware store yesterday, picking up some garden stuff and happened to catch the conversation in front of me.

the man in front of me was buying a no soliciting sign.

the checker asked "who is this for, girl scouts?

stuckinamovement

Lol sapphy how did you know that I am actually Andre?

Funny stuff.

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The "worlds" view of the preaching work- pretty accurate

by stuckinamovement in

true story ........so i was standing in line at the hardware store yesterday, picking up some garden stuff and happened to catch the conversation in front of me.

the man in front of me was buying a no soliciting sign.

the checker asked "who is this for, girl scouts?

stuckinamovement

True story ........So I was standing in line at the hardware store yesterday, picking up some garden stuff and happened to catch the conversation in front of me.

The man in front of me was buying a no soliciting sign. The checker asked "who is this for, girl scouts?"

the man responded "those damn Jehovah's Witnesses. I have only lived here for three weeks and those bastards have come by twice." "I told them not to bother me, and if I ever want to learn about their crazy religion I will come to them".

The Checker replied...." I know, they just don't seem to get it. You can put yourself on a do not disturb list."

The man said in return, "if they come back again I will demand to be put on the list. I mean how disrespectful is it to come to my house at 10:00 in the morning to tell me that my religion is wrong?" " I don't stalk them down to say that I think they are a cult, I mean doesn't it go both ways?"

The checker replied, "they are trying to win converts. Everyone I know can't stand them."

I could hardly keep a staight face when I was paying for my items.

Attention Watchtower. The conversation above is exactly how you are perceived. Is it any wonder that you have zero growth from the territory?

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Is The End of the "Preaching Work" Now In Sight?

by metatron in

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there may not be any specific plan to end the "preaching work" but that doesn't mean that things can't evolve into such an outcome.

indeed, i now wonder if such a thing is probable!.

first, if (and it's a very big if) various nations develop case law that includes liability for volunteers, this will put the watchtower in a bind.

stuckinamovement

Great thread Met.

I think that the preaching work is already a farce. People know that a day in service equals a day where you waste time, money and gas. No one is coming into the religion out of the territory. Most of the growth in the developed world comes from witness kids who are encouraged to get baptized. It is a joke. As more people realize that they are on a hamster wheel they will slow down, fake their hours, and eventually quit. (Its already happening)

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I Pads at Meetings

by seenitall in

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i know a boe letter just came through approving use of electronic devices (ipads) at meetings for the wt, bible, cd-rom.

anyone care to post the original letter?.

stuckinamovement

Moshe, you are a genius. Add a spyware app to your idea and the society will jump on board!

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Menlo Park KH - Elder Tells All - and more

by Juan Viejo2 in

i've published part one of a three part series about the menlo park kh scandal.

http://ex-jw.com/menlo-park-elder-tells-all-1.

this has been a tough one for me.. the original federal case was dismissed in january.

stuckinamovement

Soldier 77, were there significant problems that were visible within the congregation? The brother that came out to clean it up came from the branch? If you feel comfortable enough you can PM me.

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