Go and tell him the truth about the truth. Guaranteed you won't get anymore calls or invites. Remember, it takes two witnesses for judicial action.
SIAM
ok. the good news is that my wife has eased up on the whole "talking it out with the elders" thing.
she now insists that she is doing her"own independent research with unbiased materials" on some subjects.
unbiased?
Go and tell him the truth about the truth. Guaranteed you won't get anymore calls or invites. Remember, it takes two witnesses for judicial action.
SIAM
i would like to share the information below with newer members and lurkers.
we're not insensitive to what you're now going through.
many of us have been in your position.
Great List. I am definitely printing it out.
SIAM
dose anyone remember this issue?
i remember i was 18 when i read this, being a youth myself i put myself in their shoes and i was so sad and angry.
their short lives were stolen.
What the craziest thing is: I would bet some of those kids died refusing blood and blood fractions 6 years before the new fractions doctrine was adopted that would have saved their lives. too bad they didn't get sick in 2000.
So tell me who is responsible for their deaths, Jehovah, the Governing Body, or their parents for following the commands of men. Man this makes me so angry. These Jackasses have the nerve to claim to speak for god and mandate that their followers obey at the risk of social execution or even physical death, and then reserve the right to do an about face change position, and still claim that god is directing them.
SIAM
here is a list of the current governing body members:.
gerrit losch: born 1942, appointed july 1, 1994 .
guy h. pierce: born 1935, appointed oct. 1, 1999 .
Is it just me, but do some of these clowns have lazy eyes? Loesch, and Morris for sure.
victoria, australia: report on oct. 11th hearing involving steven unthank.
(this report is from an anonymous xjw who attended the hearing.
i had no plans to turn up to the court hearing as an observer, as in my experience, it can take several hearings and a number of months before any court case gets rolling.
There has got to be a pending newspaper article on this? I am almost drooling on my keyboard at this news. Yup there is drool on my space bar.
This is a really big deal. Unthank defends the FDS and the Lawyers claim it does not exist but is rather a "theological arrangement". It's like saying that the college of the cardinals doesn't exist in real life it is just a "religous concept".
The society is quickly going to come up with new light on Matt. 24:45. If they can't defend their core foundational doctrine in a court of law, it shows that they know it is all a bunch of crap.
SIAM
with all of the legal mumbo jumbo and technicalties that the organization uses (recently brought to light in the australian case), i couldn't help but wonder what power the "no longer one of jehovah's witnesses" really has or even means from a technical standpoint, since the organization is so technical.
we know what it means when the announcement is made, but in reality, so-and-so never really belonged to any of the groups in the first place.
the law says that association or membership is voluntary, therefore the organization has the right to expel and shun someone for not following the guidelines expected of members.. what are the rank and file members of?.
Leolaia, You are hands down the smartest person on this board. I always appreciate your posts.
SIAM
.style1 { border-style: solid; border-width: 2px; } .style2 { color: #ff0000; } tri-fold ajwrb.org blood brochure.
to use, print and distribute at no charge.
(print quality is far better (600dpi) than you see on this screen or in the thumbnail.
I love this. False doctrine crumbles under the weight of logic and muted sarcasm.
Randy, Have you considered sending out a press release? Maybe even formally partnering with the Red Cross or other blood bank organizations to promote the concept?
SIAM
this is a preliminary summary only.
i hope to obtain more details later.. .
all five cases are still within the criminal justice system.
There has got to be a way of getting a transcript of this hearing?
SIAM
.style1 { border-style: solid; border-width: 2px; } .style2 { color: #ff0000; } tri-fold ajwrb.org blood brochure.
to use, print and distribute at no charge.
(print quality is far better (600dpi) than you see on this screen or in the thumbnail.
Great brochure. I would reccomend changing the title "Presiding overseer" to "Coordinator of the body of elders".
SIAM
this is a preliminary summary only.
i hope to obtain more details later.. .
all five cases are still within the criminal justice system.
Will this case attract any media attention in Australia? I know there were a few preliminary articles, but it sure seems like the progression of the case would generate a follow up article. Especially the judges comments about charging each member of the GB. What's the old saying. "Sunshine is the best disinfectant?"
The sun is shining in Victoria.
SIAM