victim hung on to faith .
by mike o'brien.
dylan boe held on to his faith until the end.. the 19-year-old was the only one of four young friends who wasn't immediately killed in a two-vehicle crash near melville, saturday.. like preston presiloski, adam anderson and elisha stasiuk, boe was a jehovah's witness.
I don't see any indication in the article that this young man was miserable or a wretch. The article indicates that he was happy to die for his faith.
While I would agree that either way, his sacrafice was a waste, I would state that his happiness to be willing to die is actually a much more frightening thought than if he had reluctantly gave up his life to meet a religious vow.
Anyone happy to die had been misled.
hugs
Joel
given a comment on my brci sound bites, yet another, though now deceased, gb member also stated that the organization's teachings are a farce or fraud.
also, ray franz publications have throughly documented his views from the time he was on the gb and afterwards, as to what he thinks.
it seems that ray also mentioned in crisis of conscience that some of the gb felt that their 1914 doctrine was in serious error while he was there.
Amazing,
interesting post. Someone else, I believe it was Defender, recently posted excerpts from a watchtower article that continued to ballyhoo
1914 as the beginning of the last days.
I am quite surprised that they have not started to tone done the 1914 rhetoric, now that 1914 is in a former century.
Even as an active witness I disagreed with their concentration on future rewards for current behavior. I always felt that there was much more value to forming a unified brotherhood based on a love for each other and a willingness to sublimate self interests and concerns.
Evidently they do not feel that this is enough of a payback to attract people. They do utilize this message but it always takes back seat to the more prolific "Now is bad, soon will be good" message. In fact, this year's magazines that I have glanced through seem to be going even more heavily in that direction.
Quite odd. I do not understand their agenda. It may simply be that there are still enough "organization men" that need the organization to survive in order for them to be able to continue the way of life that they are accustomed to that they just want to soak a few more years out of it.
I cannot believe that there are many 20 or even 30 year old males that are now willing to commit to a total Watchtower life.
hugs
Joel
thanks to all who read my post, and especially to all those who replied.
it is so encouraging to have so much in common with people.
i have been wanting to share this story for so long, just to show how much control these wt freaks have on their victims.
Hi Sarah,
I was there. I used to make regular visits to individual elders to confess my sinful thoughts.
They don't want guys to masturbate, they want guys to get married and start producing young JW's.
hugs
Joel
us and our neigbhours have a guy who trims our trees annually.
he's a jw.
for the last 2 weeks our neighbours have engaged him to pave their driveway.
Hi Marilyn and Danny.
Interesting discussion.
Witnesses have a vested interest in being correct. Most have invested, or we might say gambled, the very essence of their lives, that is their time in the concept of being delivered from their misery either now or at a later date.
Time cannot be replaced, it is money spent, so all they can hope for is future return.
Non witnesses typically are not willing to wait for this long term return on their investment. Indeed, neither are most witnesses. Very few are left who make the total life commitment to the future reward. My parents and their friends are among this group. They are the last of a dying breed
hugs
Joel
need a break from the project (and just plain missing you all!).
so who's up for a little light relief in the form of a good old game of 'word association'?.
i'll kick us off with a word and you simply post your reply highlighting the first word you thought of - and so on and so on and so on ........ nic'.
obsession
i didn't really know these people that well.
i was only ten.
we were at their house eating dinner, one sunday after the meeting.
You Know has no religion and no god. He is alone.
i am new here trying to figure my way around...... i would appreciate it if you could say which of these fits you..... 1. still a jw.
2. if you dont agree with the jw doctrines any longer do you belong to another religious organization now?
3. are still religious and have no religious affiliation.
Dedalus,
Yes, my beliefs are quite similar to pantheism.
hugs
Joel
song - 112 "then they will know".
(as sung by the gb).
long have our foes been trying to expose.
this was another of my very favorites.
i was a loud singer.
la la la la
Joel
i didn't really know these people that well.
i was only ten.
we were at their house eating dinner, one sunday after the meeting.
Slayer, I really like you a lot buddy. I have had no one close to me commit suicide, but I know of several through friends that have.
Disfellowshipping is a manmade institution run by men. It is so easy to see how horrible a psychological blow it is to people, especially young people, to be cut off socially. It is in a word detestable.
You Know never ceases to amaze me. I doubt seriously that he is an active witness.
Virtual hugs to you my friend. Don't punish yourself for the past, but instead use what you have learned to help you help others in the future.
hugs
Joel
song 113 - "we are jehovah's witnesses".
i've seen pics of sharon stone.
celebreties i'd love to bone.
that was one of my favorite kingdom songs. it was the song they were singing at the convention when I got baptized.
memories, of the times we left behind.
hugs
Joel
