Posts by joelbear

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Is this Completely Apostate

by redline in

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i just happened on this place a few days ago, and thought i would stop in to see what it was all about.

it claims to be a jehovah's witness forum, which it is not.. dont want to come here and point fingers, as i am sure there are some good people in here, just seems the bad have followed the good.

i guess in reality thats always the case, but hey, what else would these people do if they couldn't wage their little war on the truth.

joelbear

Redline,

Welcome to the discussion. I was disappointed in the way you opened the discussion, saying our lives were worthless, but glad to see you back up from that statement a bit.

I believe Jehovah's Witnesses have many truths, but not all of them. I believe most Jehovah's Witnesses are good people trying to make their way in life as best they can and using the teachings of the society to help them do this and help them through the very difficult times.

Where you and I differ is, that I believe this is true of all of humanity, not just the witnesses. I think we are all in this together, all of humanity and that we turn to God to help us through and to make our lives more meaningful. I think every time we help another person, we make our lives meaningful.

Whether you decide to stay a witness or not is irrelevant. How your use your life, whether a witness or not, is what is important. Follow the fruitages of the holy spirit and follow Jesus' commandment to love both your neighbor and your enemy.

I wish you peace.

hugs

Joel

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LATEST INSTALLMENT OF APOSTATE "DOOM"...

by You Know in

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as the last days wind down to their dramatic conclusion, prophecies that were heretofore obscure, over time have now come more sharply into focus.

one such prophecy that bears review is the oft-quoted verse concerning the "increasing of lawlessness.

" typically the watchtower has pointed to increasing criminal lawlessness in the world as evidence of the fulfillment of that particular feature of the sign of christ's imminent arrival.

joelbear

So now I hear You Know saying that only a small percentage of JW's will actually be saved? So the number making it into Armageddon will be much less than 6 million?

Fascinating.

Joel

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Loyal Elders! Here's Your Future!

by metatron in

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i will now predict the personal futures of countless.

loyal elders who secretly read this board.. in five to ten years, you will say to yourself:.

"what was i thinking?".

joelbear

I agree meta,

Well said.

I have cried those tears, not as an elder, but as a pioneer and bethelite. As people can tell from my posts here, I am just not a good pretender, what you see it what you get, warts and all.

Seeing the double lives and double standards made me weep many times for the truth that simply was not.

hugs

Joel

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Proof of World Peace

by metatron in

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some of you may not be fully aware of the state of.

world peace today.

it's easy to get caught up in .

joelbear

Oh great, metatron goes and declares peace and security, now here comes sudden destruction.

hugs

Joel

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subcultures

by joelbear in

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sociology is fascinating.. here at this board we have a subculture of a subculture, similar to bears (gay hairy men) who are also a subculture of a subculture.. i participate in boards for both groups and they are remarkably similar.

there are the people who post long drawn out posts pontificating about this or that.

there are snipers who do nothing but try to derail threads.

joelbear

Sociology is fascinating.

Here at this board we have a subculture of a subculture, similar to bears (gay hairy men) who are also a subculture of a subculture.

I participate in boards for both groups and they are remarkably similar. There are the people who post long drawn out posts pontificating about this or that. There are snipers who do nothing but try to derail threads. There are people who come there just to tell us how stupid we are. Its fascinating to me to watch group dynamics and to learn that the subject matter is really irrelevant.

Any group that has a certain number of people will attract basically the same sets of humans and human behavior.

I bet we could start a board about peanut butter sandwiches and within 6 months we would have:

Fred: Peanut butter is for buttheads.

You Know: I have researched this topic thoroughly and found many scientific journals that show that peanut butter causes acne, phlegm and the tendency to hop uncontrollably towards cliffs. You are all too stupid to realize this. ENJOY YOUR PEANUT BUTTER NOW, while you still can you fools. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Logical: Peanut butter is for homos. I hate homos so I hate peanut butter. Hey girls, please talk to me.

Joelbear: Peanut butter turns me on. Especially big hairy peanut butter.

Tina: Don't sympathize with me just because I can't make good peanut butter you male chauvinist swine. (Just teasin ya Tina)

etc. etc. etc.

sticky roof of mouthed hugs

Joel

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New Congregation

by Deacon in

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ok. we ran a thread recently about starting a new religion.. how about we start an international congregation here on the board.. we need 7 elders.

7 being a sign of perfection..er....yeah.. we need ministerial servants.. appointments will be general concensus..er holy spirit i mean.. p.o.

lets start with him.

joelbear

I want to be the guy that follows male apostates into the bathroom

leoj reab

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seat saving

by joelbear in

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if the society really wanted to make some dough, they would release a book covering the art of seat saving.. several times we had people move our stuff and just take our seats.

we had 9 in our extended family so we usually took up a good amt of space.

the men in the family went early to get seats so the girls could stay home and get ready.

joelbear

If the society really wanted to make some dough, they would release a book covering the art of seat saving.

Several times we had people move our stuff and just take our seats. We had 9 in our extended family so we usually took up a good amt of space. The men in the family went early to get seats so the girls could stay home and get ready.

When I became a teenager I always wanted to sit with my friends. It was always interesting to see who got to see with who, it was very much a prestige thing.

Once I was sitting alone with a teen age sister and her father came and made her move since it didn't look right. I could have fell through the floor. LOL, the joke was on him, I was much more attracted to him that to his daughter.

grappling hugs

Joel

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MORE FROM PROFITS OF DOOM

by You Know in

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whom do you trust?

according to apostates, god and his word can't be trusted because the bible is unreliable and jehovah god is a baby killer and murderer of innocent people.

trusting the watchtower is out of the question, because obviously, the whole thrust of the apostasy is aimed at discrediting the watchtower so as to create wicked suspicions and distrust in the minds of trusting ones, apparently with some success.

joelbear

I think I am falling in love with You Know.

He is butcher than any of you

big hugs to You Know

Joel

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Not sure I can handle the anger anymore

by professor in

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i am over 30 and have been out of the "organization" for almost 14 years now.

my father is an elder who's main concern is kissing up to the c.o.

so he can move up the ranks and be important.

joelbear

Professor.

Boy can I identify with your feelings. I continue to grapple with acceptance. Because acceptance is the only way to get rid of the anger.

I have a mental exercise that I go through when I seem to be reaching the brink of not being able to handle the anger or the despair any more.

I remind myself (and I have to do this a lot) that getting mad at people for the way the behave or even getting mad at the reason they behave a certain way is just as silly as getting mad at a squirrel for running into the road or getting mad at a weed or rock for being there. This may sound silly, but it helps me cope with my place in the universe and how little control I have over people or anything else.

hugs

Joel

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Biology Lesson for the gals

by Francois in

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elsewhere in the active topics list is a great post from wasasister dealing in a very wise manner with women's hormonal cycle.

the viewpoint and outlook contained in her post was to my mind very well done, thoughtful, considerate, and made a number of points that would be helpful to keep in mind in dealing with the male/female dynamic.. so i hope (and believe) that wasa won't mind if i use her post to springboard to one of my own - the mirror image of hers.. wasa makes a very good point in saying that women are jerked around by the hormones in their blood every month.

and lots of us know at least one woman whose pms reaches truly epic proportions.

joelbear

LDH,

Women have testosterone? Hmmm. I may have to rethink this whole thing.

Francoise.

Thanks for the kind words. I don't see any evidence there is going to be a second change on another plane or another planet. What would be the purpose in starting the whole affair over again.

I am a big fan of Asimov. You will see references to both his science books and his fiction books in my thoughts. My favorite books are The Foundation Series by Asimov where he leads us on a fictional jaunt into mankind's possible future using one set of logic.

I don't think man will ever overcome the laws of physics that would enable us to start over in other galaxies. Could a godlike entity scoop us up and carry us there? I suppose so, but again, I would question the logic behind it.

Take care

Joel