are jws really all that honest like they like to claim?.
in my personal experience, i don't think so.
i believe they are just like anyone else and don't "stand out" in respect to their honesty, as they like to claim.
The witnesses aren't better than anyone else, they just like to brag that they are.
Where they have helped people to make changes for the better morally, and there's no question they have, their record is no better than that of many other organizations and volunteer groups. And at what cost has it come to those who have become Witnesses? And how genuine is it when forced by coersion, peer pressure, and loss of personal freedom?
on 2 recent occasions i have been joined for breakfast by 2 separate individuals, both ex-witnesses.
stunningly - to me anyway - both were absolutely appalled when, for my "choose any 7 items for 1.99" brekky i opted to include black sausage.
just love the way those black bits mix into the egg-yolk, mmm!
LOL matty,
That was in my first talk on the TMS when i was, like 12. Everybody said I made a face when I read it. Those zany, wacky bible writers!
are jws really all that honest like they like to claim?.
in my personal experience, i don't think so.
i believe they are just like anyone else and don't "stand out" in respect to their honesty, as they like to claim.
Perhaps you should print out the latest WT article on business dealings or lying/cheating. They can be very self-righteous and I enjoy throwing that back at witnesses (like the many articles they've written to defend the WT against labels, like when they are called a "cult". I like to use those when others discredit everything I say becuase I'm "apostate").
on 2 recent occasions i have been joined for breakfast by 2 separate individuals, both ex-witnesses.
stunningly - to me anyway - both were absolutely appalled when, for my "choose any 7 items for 1.99" brekky i opted to include black sausage.
just love the way those black bits mix into the egg-yolk, mmm!
Do mountain lions and cows typically cross paths?
what or who , do you believe has the most influence on how jw's lead their lives?.
is it the watchtower mags, meetings, circuit overseers , governing body,peers,or something else?.
i was trying to think about what most influenced me and i think it is the group pressure we recieve in the org that pushes us most to do things.
perhaps fear of a distorted god is the best way to put it. Remember, the GB is basically god on earth, and I've seen enough people over the years tremble anytime one of them batted an eyelash. I don't care how genuine any of those men are in feeling they are god-appointed, the amount of power they wield over others is disgusting, they know it, and they continue.
on 2 recent occasions i have been joined for breakfast by 2 separate individuals, both ex-witnesses.
stunningly - to me anyway - both were absolutely appalled when, for my "choose any 7 items for 1.99" brekky i opted to include black sausage.
just love the way those black bits mix into the egg-yolk, mmm!
I remember once in a car group everbody going postal because I sucked on my finger after accidentally cutting it. Freakish. It wasn't like I was hemorrhaging or anything.
Anywhoo, never had blood sausage, but I'll try anything once.
Edited by - joeshmoe on 19 June 2002 11:42:10
...and apparently get the t-shirt too!
http://cafepress.com/apostate .
edited by - professor on 19 june 2002 10:54:19.
Would a former bethelite lie to you?
...and apparently get the t-shirt too!
http://cafepress.com/apostate .
edited by - professor on 19 june 2002 10:54:19.
Moe,
Been there, done that.
Home,
I just thought you were polish.
Edited by - joeshmoe on 19 June 2002 11:11:31
...and apparently get the t-shirt too!
http://cafepress.com/apostate .
edited by - professor on 19 june 2002 10:54:19.
Ok, we definitely need to have some kind of contest or raffle to give away some of those shirts here on the site. Very Cool!
@moe - I see that thought-provoking thread you posted to has disappeared.
i heard from an old friend today - she is a young woman i knew from my last congregation.
i was asked to attend her bible study because we shared a profession and it was thought we would have something in common.
in fact, she was a very shy young woman shy and attractive, but not in the traditional, flashy way of many witness girls.
How can I support the needy person without sacrificing my own situation?
I agree with Farkal. I understand (I think we all understand) the pressure you feel not to be shunned by friends and family. But this persons life, mentally and emotionally, is being crushed. To allow that to continue and do nothing amounts to continuing as a victim to the organization and its policies. How will you feel looking back on this years down the road?
Perhaps it's time to take a firm stand and let others know what it is. Then you can help anyone in such dire straits without compromising any 'situation' created by WT policy.
-Joe
