Posts by A.Fenderson

@PSacramento: I've noticed in this and other threads, you seem to believe that merely reading the bible (in the normal sense of the word "reading") isn't anywhere near enough to actually come to an understanding of what it potentially contains or the message(s) that the authors were attempting to convey. Considering, then, that a huge percentage of people today (and throughout history) are functionally illiterate and don't have years of their life to dedicate to the study of a single book, etc, if it were divinely inspired, how do you reconcile this burdensome requirement with the (generally accepted view(?)) that the God spoken of therein actually wants people to know and understand his message? If someone told you that your disbelief in Buddhism (only as an example) was due to it requiring years of intense research and meditation on your part to fully understand and thereby believe in it, wouldn't you find that rather...."convenient"?

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Help! I've fallen and I can get up on my own but I'm going to sue because I'm embarrassed.

by sooner7nc in

http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/fountain-lady-nobody-went-to-my-aid-23909987 .

A.Fenderson

I'm not saying no one should have tried to see if she was OK, but at the same time, no one should be held responsible for not doing so when it was obvious she was OK and was trying to act like it didn't happen (as she herself even said).

She could have had a seizure, been dizzy, who knows what could have caused her to fall.

True, but we know exactly what caused her to fall: texting so intently that she was completely oblivious to the concrete reality right in front of her face. We're all lucky she wasn't behind the wheel texting--she easily could have killed any number of people.

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I am new here too!

by NVR2L8 in

jw
friends

for a long while i have been coming to this site on a daily basis and i think it is time to introduce myself.

here we go: my parents learned the truth when i was 4 and i don't have childhood memories of how life was before they converted.

i was a model jw child, although quite mischievous at school.

A.Fenderson

Thanks for sharing your experience--glad to have you with us. :-)

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Help! I've fallen and I can get up on my own but I'm going to sue because I'm embarrassed.

by sooner7nc in

http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/fountain-lady-nobody-went-to-my-aid-23909987 .

A.Fenderson

I think it is awful that no one came to help her

Did you watch the video? She gets up and out immediately, and continues walking--it's not like she was in danger of drowning or something.

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I need a show of hands: who believes the Bible and to what extent?

by Terry in

i'll start off.. i don't believe anything is divine about bible writings.

i believe there may be some marginal history although not much.

i think alot of folk tales and regional myths are contained in the old testament.

A.Fenderson

I believe the message of the Bible to be inspired, namely, we are mortally flawed creatures who are desperately in need of a Savior.
I believe the God of the Bible to be that Savior.
I believe the Bible itself is only as inerrant as the men who compiled it.

This isn't internally consistent--it's self-contradictory. How can you claim both to know the true message of the bible, and that it's divinely inspired, while admitting that the channel which has brought you the message is inherently flawed?

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Help! I've fallen and I can get up on my own but I'm going to sue because I'm embarrassed.

by sooner7nc in

http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/fountain-lady-nobody-went-to-my-aid-23909987 .

A.Fenderson

She got what she deserves, and was in a public place. I hope it's thrown out of court and the judge fines her for wasting his time.

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I need a show of hands: who believes the Bible and to what extent?

by Terry in

i'll start off.. i don't believe anything is divine about bible writings.

i believe there may be some marginal history although not much.

i think alot of folk tales and regional myths are contained in the old testament.

A.Fenderson

Uninspired, in all possible senses of the word.

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JWs and Education

by Liberty93 in

so this isn't one of the normal zomg teh witnesses h8 educashun!!!

!1 threads, because we all know that -.

rather, i'd just like to note that i was reading about paul today, and remembered that not only did he have an extremely good education for his time and speak, write, and read multiple languages, he was also aware of, and educated about, all of those horrible, worldly, ungodly philosophies that the jws are so scared of.. of course, when they're harping on the "you don't need college" bs, they never note that or take the more plausible line that education would help people defend their faith rationally (because it's not about beliefs anymore) because they know that taking an introductory logic course and two semesters of world history would sink any and all belief in what they say.... just a few thoughts..

A.Fenderson

they know that taking an introductory logic course and two semesters of world history would sink any and all belief in what they say...

Forget the world history, intro logic should be sufficient, if they actually get it. ;-) And you nailed it--it's almost impossible to have your brain truly turned on and in use, and remain in a cult--at least, not without imploding/exploding at some point.