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  The Australian Royal Commission hearings on the JWs handling of child abuse begins here in the US later today. It will be streamed.

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  the royal commission hearing starting on monday, july 27, 2015 - australian day and date - (and it could go on until august 7th depending on how many witnesses testify) regarding jehovah's witnesses handling of child abuse is supposed to be streamed.. it could be that the hearing will only be audio not video although we were informed it will be streamed.

  we'll find out in a few hours.. i live in the central time zone of the us and right now here it is sunday, 3: 45 pm.

  in sydney, australia, it is 15 hours ahead of us.

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  Anyone have day one uploaded somewhere so we can watch it from the beginning?
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  Crazy myths about the way GB is "guided"

  by paradisebeauty in

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  2. beliefs

  there are a few jw's i know who believe that when the gb takes a decision this is what happens:.

  each member goes into a separate room, prays about something.

  after that, they get together and they all have the same thought about the issue.. what are the craziest ideas you heard about the way they are "guided".

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  Heard that one to :P

  I like this one:

  GB study the scriptures deeply and pray together until they agree on the "new light" or whatever. If they never have to change the light, it was from Jehovah. But if they have to change it, it was human error and not from Jehovah.

  It is a perfect system.
  

  One theory I heard, was that Jehovah is letting them come to the wrong conclusions to fool Satan and the demons...
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  So heres latest from local hall

  by poopie in

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  a friend of mine that is df went to hall today someone held door for him he thanked them ,soon after and elder aproached wispered in his ear "you cant talk to anyone" the pharisees .

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  stan livedeath

  If they want to get back they probably believe it is the "truth", and don't forget Jehovah sees EVERYTHING so they have to play the game by the "rules"... :/

  
  
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  Media headline:Jehovah's Witnesses did not report 1006 alleged sex abusers to police, royal commission told

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  check it for yourself: .

  http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/jehovahs-witnesses-did-not-report-1006-alleged-sex-abusers-to-police-royal-commission-told-20150727-gil1u7.

  not a good look!.

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  Mr Stewart said: "Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the only way to finally end child abuse is to, as they put it, 'embrace God's kingdom under Christ' and to 'love God with all your heart and your neighbour as yourself', so as to be saved when the end comes,"
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  Do not Disassociate, Anull your baptism

  by jwfacts in

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  2. beliefs

  i am now a jedi, so trust me on this.. .

  why dis-associate, you are just playing by the wts rules?

  how can you dis-associate anyway, you never thought you were baptised as a watchtower society member, you thought your dedication was to god, so why formally disassociate from something you did not formally join?

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  Yeah, if anyone tries please let us know how it goes.

  One of the reasons it might fail is that the elders manual makes it very hard to actually pull it of. And if you say all the right things and manage to persuade the BOE, they are then supposed to call bethel for future instructions. So they might not grant it even if the BOE think it needs to be annulled...

  It is important that you where sinning before and during the entire process because that is proof that Jehovah could not have accepted your dedication to him.

  Don't forget to read everything about this before trying it, the elders manual is a good place to start.
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  Damn.....totally not diggin this....

  by brandnew in

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  ok, im gonna try makin this as short as i can, cuz im still pissed.. my father is elderly, needs me to drive him to meetings.

  it takes 30 minutes to drive there, so i stay for the meeting, i dress in slacks and a nice shirt ..in respect for pops.

  going back home , would be pissing in the wind.....i would just have to turn around 20 minutes after getting there.. well elders asked me to the back room, and said im doing a good job taking care of my father, and that it looks like im well on my way to getting reinstated soon....wtf???.

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  brandnew sitting with his phone/tablet on jwsurvey or here, they probably think he is reading the scriptures/the watchtower during the study.

  Elder: He is even taking notes during the meeting, maybe ha has underlined the watchtower too.

  If they only knew :P
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  Use of first names at the KH

  by Sour Grapes in

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  have you ever noticed that know one uses first names at the kh?

  it is how are you brother jones?

  how are you sister smith?

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  Funny, I never thought of this. This is not true for all languages. In my language they say "sister/brother last name" during the meeting but after an before the meeting they use the first names. Sometimes they say "sister/brother last name" jokingly because it sounds so "serious".

  I believe it might have something to do with culture?
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  Shall I go to the meeting? Would you?

  by KateWild in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi guys,.

  i might go to the meeting.

  i stopped going in my heart properly in nov 2013, but i went to a couple of meetings to support a love one that was df'd and tried to teach them a little ttatt.. now another df'd loved one is coming to see me today and will likely encourage me to try and get ri'd, and i want to support her.

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  There's been a lot of research by scientists and sociologists on this so caution is the word here.

  flipper do you have any source for this claim? I just find it boring and ridiculous sitting through a meeting after I woke up. You see through the manipulation and lies, I don't think it has any negative effect other than that you might get irritated. Once you know TTATT I think you are pretty much immune to their deception.

  This is of curse my personal experience so some source to your claim would be very interesting.

  KateWild

  Regarding giving false hopes to you daughter, I think if this is a risk. Going could be a bad idea, some have had relatives reconnect with them when they realized that they will never come back. It will be a setback in this regard if you give your daughter hope.

  Also, if you decide to go I would suggest as many others have. That you make it clear to your friend why you are going so there wont be any misunderstanding or any idea that you are approving their decision to become reinstated.

  But as I said before, I don't see any reason to fear the JW indoctrination after learning about TTATT as many of the other posters here do. If you think you can help your friend by going to the meeting I think you could do it, but remember to include the effect this will have on your daughter before make a decision.
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  Judicial committee letter to elders

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

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  warning: this is rather lengthy.

  i thought i would post this information that i took with me to my judicial committee.

  the elders promised that we would talk about everything that was bothering me, yet, we ended up talking about less than 10% of it.

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  After he went into the kingdom hall, the presiding overseer and the elders of the congregation asked him while he was in the back room and said: “Do you believe in the governing body?” In reply Ricky said to them: “I will also ask you one thing. If you tell me, then I will also tell you if I believe in the governing body: Will only Jehovah's witnesses survive Armageddon? Yes or no?” But they began to reason among themselves, saying: “If we say, ‘Yes,’ he will say to us, ‘What about all the people who never got the chance to hear the good news, and what about the children?’ But if we say, ‘No,’ he will say to us, ‘Why then do you preach? Why do you claim that you are doing a life saving work if they will survive Armageddon anyway?’ ” So they answered Ricky: “We do not know how Jehovah will judge.” He, in turn, said to them: “Neither am I telling you if I believe in the governing body.
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  Shall I go to the meeting? Would you?

  by KateWild in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi guys,.

  i might go to the meeting.

  i stopped going in my heart properly in nov 2013, but i went to a couple of meetings to support a love one that was df'd and tried to teach them a little ttatt.. now another df'd loved one is coming to see me today and will likely encourage me to try and get ri'd, and i want to support her.

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  People have been reinstated to save loved ones from the ORG. If you want to attend a few meetings to support and help a loved one I find that very kind.

  Hope you manage to plants some seeds while you are at it ;)