why would the followers of jesus be hated?.
should we find it strange, that as followers of jesus, we will be hated to the extreme jesus here foretold in these following words?
to the point of being arrested, persecuted, and killed?.
I once took a COs wife on one of my studies and they asked her a similar question...and also why do people cringe and turn away at the name Jehovah....
Her reply was to read Deuteronomy 28 v 10...which reads ' And all the peoples of the earth will have to see that Jehovah's name has been called upon you, and they will indeed be afraid of you.' NWT (obviously)
Sorry slightly off topic...
Loz x
if jws don't have the truth; if there is no paradise earth; if there is no end of this system; if death is all there is, then what hope do we have to look forward too?.
This was a long 5 page read...there are only answers according to your OWN heart OP...you just have to find them ...
Loz x
i considered myself immune to ex jw stuff.
no amount of old watchtowers or anything would change me.
it was seeing treatment of others by elders and the bible itself, which woke me.
It was the elders for me...years and years of seeing their cruel treatment of others but I kept believing that they couldnt be unjust...it wasnt possible...then it was my turn and they treated my family and me so dreadfully and played such a part in destroying our family unit and I took them to task...fatal...they waited and when I was on the floor they kicked me and kept kicking...truly thats how it felt....
Years before I'd read the chapter in Ezekiel about the bad shepherds in Israel...and finally I saw that they fitted the description...and I couldnt deny it any longer.
I didnt read or even look at anything considered 'apostate' for 3+ years...and have only in the last 3 months done any research online....what an absolute revelation it has been...
Loz x
just wanted to interduce myself an give an quick synopsis.. i was a happy an healthy(ish) young man back in march 08. i was cornnered by a (didn't know it @ the time) jw who talked to me alot about "the truth" and why the world is like it is.
he is a window cleaner in town, hence i didn't know as he wasn't in his suit.
everything he said made sense to me @ the time, but thinking back i wasn't @ my healthiest or strongest so he got me @ my weakest point.
Hi Drewmeister and Welcome ! Its a good step you've taken joining here..I've not been on here for long but the support and encouragement as well as the info is excellent.
Just like you I developed ME/CFS back in 1993 and I'm not sure that it was simply the Org's pressure because my life was stressful too, and I also understand and believe that our immune system is under attack from a virus which doesnt leave our system. It certainly didnt and doesnt help to have so much pressure to 'keep going' and do more than you should or could when ME is around, and just makes everything much worse. I've had some very difficult years with the disease for sure. In the UK we're told that the prevalence of the disease in JWs is amazingly high.
OTWO it actually isn't like depression at all...its much more physical although it can cause depression because of the physical limitations...
On a positive note Drewmeister...I think its pretty fortunate that you only lost a couple of years of your life with the JWs as opposed to the decades many of us lost, so be thankful for that, thats not to say however, that you havent had the trauma of the whole experience and the sadness of abandonment as your health failed. Those thing are very significant and demoralising and you will now need to give yourself time to heal in many different ways. Its great that you're reading CofC, such a brilliant book. There's so much info available online about the Org and the damage it does, and being able to relate to some of it will help you as it has me.
Following my Disfellowshipping and more serious ill health I turned my life around in 2008 and despite losing my family and friends have rebuilt it with a lot of success. From being virtually housebound too in 2006-7 I have moved to a new area, remarried, and am just finishing my first year as a mature undergraduate. Life is good. Its true that with ME we always have to be conscious of our limits and must rest if possible before exhaustion but it does improve and become more manageable for the majority of sufferers. A major help will be that you are no longer under pressure to 'perform' via field service, meetings and study. Take time now to find a life that you can enjoy, and with friends who have unconditional love, and there will be some.
I wish you well, and if you need any advice re ME you are welcome to PM me anytime (I've become a master mind on it by now!)
Loz x
well, first off, iam new to the forum here, i registered maybe a week ago???
sometime around there, but anyway, i do have an honest question.
i guess a little background about me might be helpful and if not, at least therapeutic.
Best wishes and welcome from me too...I'm in a similar place to yourself...but have decided not to rush into anything ...God isnt going anywhere...
Loz x
someone talk me out of going to jail.. i just found out an ms called my sister and verbally abused her.
told her she was 'unspiritual and inactive and he doesn't have to listen to her'.......he then continued with what a 'crappy mother she is' etc.. i'm in a blind rage.
I love to hear about someone standing up to them...well done
Loz x
i am new to this board after lurking for awhile (thanks so much for creating this place simon, and for everyone's shared thoughts!).
i am going crazy because i have recently allowed myself to begin thinking (and it is so fun!
) and i am an outspoken person, and it is very hard for me to keep my opinions and discoveries about this place under my hat!
Welcome to the forum ...good advice for you here..
Loz x
Too many...they dont like changes...
Loz x
i just found a site for jah jireh care homes for elderly jws.
( www.
i didn't know this existed!
There's two in Lancashire area near Blackpool Loz x
and told him that we needed to handle both cases.
and his buddy.
's buddy on the case.
Right...I understand more now folks....thx...doesnt make it fair though...
Loz x
