LOL...."out of the mouth of babes"
Amazing how an entire auditorium filled with adults cant' see what a child sees........
No wonder children loved Jesus.......he was real......and simple......
What a bunch of crap. Next up: how to wipe your butt.
i attended one day of a two day assembly and did ok until the very last talk.
the brother was from bethal and well jw's pay closer attention to their talks, cause that is when some new info is given,,,right.
well anyways i lost focus and began to daydream, cause it became one of those talks that just talks about wasting time.
LOL...."out of the mouth of babes"
Amazing how an entire auditorium filled with adults cant' see what a child sees........
No wonder children loved Jesus.......he was real......and simple......
What a bunch of crap. Next up: how to wipe your butt.
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
The most overlooked scriptures by most JW's:
(Galatians
6:10) . . .Really, then, as long as we have time favorable for it, let us work what is good toward all, but especially toward those related to [us] in the faith.LOL LOL LOL.........I've never seen a meaner group of people in my life. Gossip, slander, lying....and DFing...........
(Matthew
LOL, LOL.....you've got to be kidding me????? No one judges other people like JW's.
7:1-2) . . ."Stop judging that YOU may not be judged; 2 for with what judgment YOU are judging, YOU will be judged; and with the measure that YOU are measuring out, they will measure out to YOU.(Romans
BAHAHAHAHAAH........from publisher to elders.........you can be ruined as a JW in mere seconds. From sideburns, to college, to the fabric of a woman's skirt........you're getting judge every single second.
...and finally, here is the scripture I read to my fellow elder at the door in field service....I asked him if he believed in the Bible...that it was inspired.....he said yes............after enduring his blather and gossip:
(Jeremiah
9:4-5) . . ."Guard yourselves each one against his own companion, and put YOUR trust in no brother at all. For even every brother would positively supplant, and every companion himself would walk around as a mere slanderer, 5 and they keep trifling each one with his companion; and they speak no truth at all. They have taught their tongue to speak falsehood. They have tired themselves out merely in doing wrong.The look on his face will be forever etched on my brain. Priceless. I just grinned at him and never returned.
do you regret not having said it since you can't be afforded the opportunity now?.
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Loz,
Most publishers would be mortified what happens to their letters. They are often passed around and shrugged off....or, depending on the elder, he reads them and trashes them.
One of my last elders meeting, the CO made a gesture showing crumpling of a letter and throwing into a trash can. He could see me just shaking my head.
I honestly don't know why people bother to write letters to the elders. I served for 11 years.....the great majority could care less about any letters. Most don't read them. Those that do make sarcastic remarks and move on......ESPECIALLY if you're DF'd.......now you're just viewed as a 'so what'.....
I've told my family and closest friends that if they sat in on an elders meeting.......they would never consider going to them with anything. I even know elders that TEACH their families NOT to go to elders. They know how bad it is........
when i was a loyal dub, i have turned down some gorgeous women.
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Yes.
Divorced, single elder.
I was offered affairs by 5 married sisters at different times.
Yeah, you read that right.
Living proof that JW sisters are the only good women on earth. LOL LOL..........
I'm still a bitter and disillusioned due to these 'girls'......
i believe one of the harder pills for an unbeliever to swallow would be the idea of being in submission to the body of elders.
we're just not used to the concept of a clergyman having authority over us in matters that are not spiritual and, even then, i know for a fact that many a catholic will not do was the priest wants without any fear of being excommunicated.
i suppose this is something you just have to accept if you're a jw.
As a former elder of many years...........the only Holy Spirit available is through His Word the Bible. ==1 Tim. 3:15, 16
Once you have served and heard/watched what some of these guys do...... you're deeply disturbed.
i have noticed a lot of newbies lately.
(i also noticed that after being absent for a year happy1975 is making a return visit.).
so, if you are a brand spanking newbie, post here and tell us a little about your interests, your state, your new direction in life, your favorite things, whatever you want to say---this is your thread.. .
Great thread.
I'm a newbie. Admittedly, still shy about posting too much about myself. I'm working up to it.......
Long time elder. I've had every privilege a man can have in the organization.....from Memorials, to speaking at conventions....weddings, chaired more JC's than I can count, etc. etc.
I couldn't take the gross lack of love anymore. And its not just 'a little lack'.....its a total lack. Between no love for 'widows and orphans', to the mass corruption among elders, to the living breathing Pharisaical spirit.........I just walked away. I'm in total fade for about a year now.....people still think I'm attending (just not as an elder) across town. I've walked away. I warned my family and that was it............FFFFAAAAAAAADDDDDDE
Crisis of Conscience turned my heart upside down. Malawi is so disturbing to me.....I can't put words to it. I was just a little guy praying and praying for those people.....they were always on my mind......now I know what really happened and it makes me physically ill.
We ignore and ignore the very premise of Christianity: LOVE. JW's judge people and are by far and away the worst gossips/slanderers I've ever encountered.
I'm still very, very angry. Angry that I was given the same love that I extended to so many. Angry that as a guy in his 40's I have no college education and I live check to check....and in FEAR of losing my job.
Now I'm just getting pissed.......
i left the "truth" in 2002 after being in it for more than 30 years.
i am so glad i wasn't raised in the "truth".
my very zealous wife who was raised in the "truth" found a worldly boyfriend and swore nothing ever happened.
HI Darth,
Great to meet you. I understand EXACTLY what you are going through. I learned that hard way that my ex-wife was always right......"its all a big game".....
I too have lost every friend I've ever known.....I'm still in the 'lost' stage; trying to figure out what's next......so you're not alone. I'm always glad to hear of a happy ending.....I'm sure glad you met a nice girl. The sisters I dated post divorce were awful.
how long do you think it will take before the wts is exposed for what it really is?.
i sort of thought the whole 1914 thing would blow the lid off this thing.
it's obvious they wormed their way out of another one.. do you think there will ever be a grand climax and jws will just start leaving in record numbers?
I agree with most of the posters above.
I too wanted to see this mass unveiling.....but I don't think it will happen. People are conditioned to 'believe'......and they have almost been setting the stage for some of this stuff....
I do think a major change in the blood policy.....like it becoming "a conscience matter" would shake things up. Imagine the people who have lost loved ones????? I think the same thing about admittance that DFing is barbaric and UnChristian.......but then again, think of all the people that have lost people.....the suicides, etc.
Somehow, I think it will just keep going.
i've been lurking for quite a while but i finally gave in to my "apostate" heart and joined!
i'm so excited!.
Welcome.....new myself
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i'm one of the few jws that freely admit our faults and mistakes.. let's compare notes!.
MadJW,
Unfortunately, your replies above show what is mostly wrong with JW's: you don't emulate Jesus in how you treat others.
Your sarcastic, erroneous tone betrays you......
Very sad....but very evident that JW's are not living proof of John 13:34, 35, nor do they treat people the way Jesus does (1 Pet. 2:21, 23)