I got another one for you RR:
Its okay to beat your wife.........afterall, when you get married you are 'one'.......and Paul said to pummel your body and lead it as a slave......therefore, its totally okay to abuse your wife.
LOL
glutton...fails to show love for jehovah.
is food a big thing in his life?
if in the presence of others, does he selfishly ignore their needs and take more than his fair share?
I got another one for you RR:
Its okay to beat your wife.........afterall, when you get married you are 'one'.......and Paul said to pummel your body and lead it as a slave......therefore, its totally okay to abuse your wife.
LOL
if you had to sum up your current thoughts on the wts/jw experience what word/phrase would you use?.
anger?.
confusion?.
As of right now: all of the above
I think of all the time I spent dedicating myself to an organization and people that flat out could care less.....
I think about not going to college and having to struggle to make a living now....
I think about the awful sisters I've dated.....
Enh...........I think I'm angry today........
seems that our 1st non attendance at the memorial has put us on the "1 sheep out of 100 radar".
we have been inundated with calls (we usually do a good job of screening) and the drop by in service wed, thurs and yesterday of some of the die/blowhards.
i fully expect another in about an hour.
Loz,
Very wise advice.
Don't argue....and DON'T SHARE if you're trying to fade away.
Stick to your guns....smile...avoid calls, change your voicemail, delete emails, don't answer Facebook.
FADE..............
been wondering if the jw's are still told to not see them.
seems like i haven't seen or heard anything like that in a few years.. .
Blondie is absolutely correct.
I was at the meeting....I even had the chance to serve closely with Guy Pierce, who went after those that watched R rated movies.
If you watch an R Rated movie, you're getting removed.
Meanwhile, in Canada......they use their conscience.
Yes......I can't say it any better than Peaches did....
Jehovah is very loving.....its man that is something you have to protect yourself from.
many ass kissers would put their name down so they could have him over for dinner......"okay now, they can't eat milk products,red meat, white meat, flour, sugar, salt, water...." .
The last CO I served with was actually the catalyst for me exiting.
One of the most unkind people I've ever met.
just got back from memorial.
only went so that i could say to my parents that i had gone and to remind myself why i left.. oh my word!!!
it was sooooo painful.. got there a bit late - it was a couple of minutes into the talk.
I went and for my mother........and even.......GASP......put my arm around her......thats a sin now, right?
The speaker mentioned 10,000 partakers last year and I started giggling. My row looked at me.....they were all clueless.
I whispered to my sister "I guess there were a few 96 year olds that came back from heaven to partake again."
99 percent of those in attendance just stared straight ahead......like the fact that partakers is GROWING is no big deal.
They will do the same during April 15ths "Generations" discussion
I basically sat there thinking "I used to give this talk"........its was surreal.
at a young age i remember watching tv and commenting why is the red cross always helping people and we don't.
the second big one is if the witnesses only started up in 1890 - 1900 did jehovah not have anyone else doing the preaching work?.
as a child i don't think we think about theological problems so what tipped you off?
Their have been several for me......I suppose most is based on personality....
1. Jesus gave ONE....yes, ONE identifying factor for those following him: "....they will know you.....but they love you have among YOURSELVES." John 13:35
There is no love. And even less so among Jehovah's Witnesses. They are by far the meanest people I've ever been around. They gossip and slander like there is no tomorrow. For anyone to claim they are 'the most loving people on earth' is ABSURD in it's own right.....but for JW's to do it, its even more absurd.
2. As single brother (divorced) who was an elder, I got a 'dose' of the 'great sisters' in the organization. No offense to the ladies here..... but current JW sisters are the worst women I've ever encountered. In the last two years, I've been physically attacked (yes sexually) by 4 different MARRIED "sisters"..... propositioned for affairs by a couple more. That is just the beginning...... I seriously want to write a book on all these wonderful "Proverbs 31" like women in "the truth"......... if you're a brother, you're likely either in a sexless marriage or have a cheating wife. I've chaired more judicial meetings and 'shepherding' calls for marriage mates that HATE each other than I can possibly share. I've had brothers remove their shirt in the "B" school to reveal last nights beating at the hands of their 'wife'...................I've had servants wives flat out say "I'm not having sex with him anymore".................UGHHHGHGHGHGGHGHGHGHG.........I'm so glad to be free of these great 'women'
3. Gal. 6:9 --- "......... work what is good toward ALL (yeah right), but ESPECIALLY toward those related to you in the faith.".......LOL LOL LOL, ...... this is probably the most overlooked verse in the Bible......followed closely by James 1 where we are supposed to look after widows and orphans. WHO ARE THEY KIDDING............. people disappear all the time.........then we go get 'em and DF 'em when we hear they messed up. Its absurd how much we ignore these scriptures. Absurd.
4. PHARISEES: how does anyone with a brain not see that making people shave facial hair, not see certain movies (unless your in Canada LOL), not get vasectomies, on and on and on and on it goes (put latest pop culture item here, Facebook, Internet, hair dye, Smurfs, etc.)..... is not a direct parallel to the Pharisees who made "the word of God invalid by teaching the traditions of MEN."
5. Claiming everyone not a JW is going to die. Seriously.......... did we decide to skip Matt. 7 and Romans 14???????
6. Ripping False Religion every week: I'm still searching for the gospel accounts where Jesus gives talk after talk after talk after talk ripping the Romans, the Jews, the Pagans, the Samaritans...... basically everyone not following him. Was he as obsessed with a negative message as we are????
7. People dying now get resurrected: so why don't we all count our time by going into a Mall, shooting everyone and telling them "you will thank me later......." or should we just be praying that everyone dies before Armageddon so they get another chance???
8. KM School for Elders: the Bethel speaker told the entire circuit of elders that the GB admits they 'guess' at things and see how it works out. Yeah.....watershed moment for this guy.
9. Discipline: DFing is the cruelest thing I've ever seen. Proof its stupid????? when a person enters that room with the 3 bros, what are they most afraid of??????? .................you know the answer......and therein lies the problem. Jehovah or his Son never enter the equation....just 'please don't DF me"
10. Did I mention the gross lack of love? Yeah...... despite the articles, the Bible Stories book, oh, and GOD'S SON......we simply can't seem to grasp that we JW's are the BAD GUYS in the story of the GOOD SAMARITAN......... yeah........the ones walking on by........while that 'evil unbeliever' cares for a stranger and an enemy. SIIIIIIIIICK
like there you were at an assembly maybe, everyone seems to be swarming with freinds, and you are the one left out unwanted and made to feel like you don't belong there?.
While serving as an elder......I seemed to have lots of friends.
As soon as I stopped....so did all of my friendships. So did the invites. So did any phone calls.
I literally was a non-entity. Oh......accept for the other elders that wanted me to move to their hall to 'serve'
I even had one long time "friend" and fellow elder tell me that "without you my daughter wouldn't be in the Truth"......and then he proceeded to not invite me to her wedding because I was no longer an elder.
Yeah.....the love just flows.
i'm brand new to the board.
long time, "big shot" elder, ....taught at km school, conventions, etc.
yeah, i know it means nothing....but it gives you an idea of how deep i've been a jw.. i don't even really know what to write at this point.
I am stunned at the outpouring of love here. Thanks to each and everyone of you...........I'm going back to the beginning and reading each post.......
This means a lot right now........thank you.