Moshe,
That was genius!!!!!
i was curious if anyone else has gone through a similar experience.. when i became inactive 4 years ago, i went through a period of not being able to focus on just about anything, other than doing tremendous amounts of research to prove to myself what my beliefs were, and to clearly identify my issues with the jw organization.
i was mad - and i was on a mission to build the ultimate case against the wt.
however, having read the fine advice on here, i backed off with my family, since it would have just gotten ugly.. i avoided posting on here for years, and had cut down my research and put it on the back burner.. however, i still felt a need to "witness" to my family and to have an open discussion with my wife.
Moshe,
That was genius!!!!!
are we bored with the wts now?
have we heard it all already?.
or is the wts just not printing "deep" articles anymore?
^^^ I agree.
Furthermore,....the WT always struggles when there isn't some terrible disaster or tragic war to feed off of...... without a third world war, they are lost......
unproductive kingdom proclaimers won't leave my kingdom hall, how do i rid our hall of these vultures or turkeys?.
"you can't fly like the eagles if you hang out with turkeys".
after visiting your site, i decided to allow one of the spiritual weak individuals into my car group, it was not easy but you have made valid points i find very self condemning.
You sound like the BOE's following every CO visit where he blasted us for low hour publishers.
are we bored with the wts now?
have we heard it all already?.
or is the wts just not printing "deep" articles anymore?
Hey Walls,
Its because no one pays attention at meetings or studies anyway........they know it. 9/10 JW's couldn't tell you the basics about the religion.....they just know which days to come to the Kingdom Hall.
i really hate divorce.
it was my parents getting divorced that helped messed up my childhood.. part of why i came to conclude the jehovah's witnesses don't have the "spiritual paradise" they claim to is how many of their marriages end up in divorce.my parents i could dismiss as an exception to a general rule, but i could never understand how often it seemed to keep happening to lots of different people when the watchtower society teaches that divorce is wrong except in case of adultery.. but what really brought things home for me was this study by the pewforum on religion survey showing that even though jehovah's witness are less likely to be married than the general population, they're more likely to be divorced or separated.. http://religions.pewforum.org/.
they really have a nerve telling people in the jehovah's witnesses religion that they shouldn't have sex outside of marriage when they've done so little to protect jws who get married, and their children, from the extreme stress and conflict of divorce.. it's really messed up.. heck, even the catholics they're are always dumping on have a lower divorce/separation rate than the jws.. jw divorced/separated = 14%.
You need look no further that JW's are a cult than their marriages.
Don't forget, the elders are given authority to insert themselves in your marriage. I will never forget one of my polarizing moments. I believe it was 2008, at Kingdom Ministry School with the elders........sitting in the audience with elders that had gotten involved in my marriage, (including meeting with my wife alone in his bedroom), ......they then began to explain their new 'porn doctrine'.......if a servant was caught watching it....the elders were to meet with him AND his wife in the B school and see how the wife felt about him watching porn. They would then decide whether to delete him or not.
I couldn't believe my ears.
I closed my Flock Book and decided it was over.
When I look back, its a minor miracle that I didn't drag a few of my fellow elders outside the KH and beat the living s**t out of them.
have some interesting info for you guys.
it seems my congregation boe has its own facebook account.
its deactivated but when issues on facebook arise they activate it to check out whats happeneing.. does something similar happen in other kingdom halls?.
Well for the elders I served with.......having a Facebook account makes sense. They could switch over from watching porn, to spying on publishers.
most vocal internet critics of watchtower corp are.
bethel elders.
elders.
LOL
I just found out a married guy that we 'privately reproved' for getting a blow job in a hot tub from another guys wife....a 'sister'......was just appointed as an MS.
They are down to bottom of the barrel when it comes to appointing men. The good ones have left.
what the title says.
do you think the wts doctrine that says that christ was made king in 1914 is about to change?
if you think that's being orchestrated and prepared, do you see signs of that already?
Don't forget, during the past 100 years........God has been watching his precious, innocent children tortured, raped, sodomized, abused and murdered................................all to give a few more folks in your territory the chance to hear the Kingdom message!
It makes sense right???
I don't see them EVER giving up on two things:
1914
Disfellowshipping
Why? Because 1914 is all they have...... at least the people that have grown up since the 1940's. Once they are dead.....MAYBE they change it
As for disfellowshipping: people have DIED due to this cult law. To do away with it suddenly would bring massive lawsuits....... they are going to hold onto that doctrine come hell or high water.........or its going to cost them $$$
have jehovah,s witnesses given incorrect dates for the end?.
jw,s have had wrong expectations about when the end would.
like jesus' first-century disciples, we have "sometimes" (lol).
Yes......just imagine if you were someone in 1984 that so much as asked a question about 'this generation'
You're labeled for life as an apostate and likely DF'd
Anyone that doesn't see the hypocrisy of this cult is truly mentally and emotionally brainwashed.
now that you realise how idiotic some of the jw beliefs are/were, do you feel ashamed of how gullible you were to believe them?.
if anything my past as an adult jw makes me understand how easily manipulated people are by the people and environment around them.
and that even intelligent people can be influenced beyond what is rational..
I'm very angry inside for my mother. She never remarried, she loves animals and she thinks Paradise is any day now. Aside from we 3 kids, she is alone.........never experienced so many things in life because she was waiting for Paradise.
That is when my anger get red hot.
Ashamed? Only that I was a high and mighty elder and DF'd people. That disgusts me......I knew it was wrong while I was doing it.
Otherwise, I LOVE...and I do mean LOVE laughing at this crazy cult now. I had a thread on here a month ago where I admitted my visit to Chuck Russell's grave was one of the funniest experiences of my life.