I'd have went back if not for the kindness of "worldly's".
lisa
when you are a jw it is pounded into your head that the "world" hates you, wants to kill you, runs around saying all kinds of horrible things about you, and would take away all your rights, freedom of religion, etc, if it could.. when i first left the wtbts organization i told "worldly" friends and family about being a jehovah's witness.
not one of them said anything disrespectful, rude, insulting, or even unkind in any way.
i could just as well have said "i'm a baptist", or "i like comic books".. a few people who know that the wtbts is a cult were concerned over my emotional health, but that was out of a sense of friendship.. i have never met anyone who on hearing the phrase "jehovah's witness" got upset or said "those xxxxx".
I'd have went back if not for the kindness of "worldly's".
lisa
remember these silly tests they make you take?
i don't remember how often they were, but thinking back on them, boy does it seem silly!
sitting there for half an hour trying to remember stupid stuff as if you are in school.
I remember putting up my hand up to answer what I thought was a simple written review question, and that I could no way in the would be wrong about..."is it ever ok to lie? or some question like that." I said,.."no, I may have elaborated, but I think I was at the one word answers, so probably elementary age, so probably just a 'NO'.
I was wrong...I was so devastated, when he said..."um..anyone else?" The answer was something like..it is OK to lie if the person doesn't deserve to know the truth .
After getting over the embarrassment of being and answering wrong, the answer started to bug me. ,,Why is ok to lie sometime,..why couldn't those people getting killed for not turning away from jehovah, just SAY what they had to say to save their lives. After all Jehovah could read their hearts..but no..they couldn't lie and they died.
Now I know I was just way ahead of my time.
lisa
hiya guys and gals.
im not trying to be self-righteous but i want to understand the thought process of someone who knows the origins of christmas, but starts celebrating it (putting up christmas tree, exchanging wrapped gifts; repeating merry christmas to everyone they see in the month of december)??
it seems very silly to me (imo) after knowing how and why christmas was created (to cater to pagans sun worship and convert to christianity)!!
WT..Did mean sun or son here?
You are now worshiping the sun, despite that they have told you how wrong it is.
Just wondering..I guess it could be either/or.
or neither. I celebrate the holiday for all the reasons stated above.
Mostly because I can and I wanna. That's why I do most things I do.
lisa
Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean they are harassing you.
Lots of people have said things I don't agree with.
Take what you want from this board and leave the rest. There is plenty of good to gain here.
Not really a HappyGuy today, are ya? Maybe tomorrow.
lisa
1. miss feminist .
this woman postulates that all the ills of society are orchestrated by men and the best thing a man can do to improve himself is cut off his testicles and grow a pair of ovaries.
she believes that women are angelic creatures who would make the world a utopia if only the male "patriarchy" would allow them to.
I'm a combination of several.
lisa
recently a friend told me her and her husband split up because they were moving in different dirrections.
they've been married for years, children grown, she wanted to go out and do things,..new and different things.
he didn't, he would rather stay home.
zombied, she's a cute pouter as is this....
I'm really talking about adults that use pouting. Really what are others supposed to do?
I just ignore, oh..roll my eyes and ignore. I don't know what else to do. Thankfully there currently aren't any adult pouters in my life that I have to deal with.
lisa
just a short info: my wife is not aware of me being here, and its not the time to tell her yet.. however, i time and again raise questions or even disagreement with some teachings of the wts, and she readily accepts them, but still believes, it is "the truth".
but the other day, she talked about the anointed, the number going up, instead of down, and even saying, that maybe the number 144.000 is not literal after all, but maybe symbolic like everything else in revelation.. i said, i would not be surprised, if "new light" comes sooner or later.. she said, that the term "new light" seems overused,.
i realised my chance, and put this thought deeper, example "generation" teaching, how it went from new, to newer, and back to older teachings etc... .
keep on doin' what you're doin'
wouldn't it be cool if she way already here.
lisa
recently a friend told me her and her husband split up because they were moving in different dirrections.
they've been married for years, children grown, she wanted to go out and do things,..new and different things.
he didn't, he would rather stay home.
I agree, entirely childlike behaivor. Then I thought more about that.
Neither of my children were pouters one boy, one girl...., still aren't,.....
only one of the three grand children, ..a boy, 5, is a pouter.
If he doesn't get his own way, he runs to his room. And screams and cries and talks to himself...then in about 15 minutes, he'll come out and say, "can we make a deal". Usually we do. Sometimes, it still a "no deal", and he runs to his room again. ..we can hear him in there saying stuff, like, "they aren't fair", "they hate me."..then he'll either try let's make a deal again or take a needed nap..and forget about whatever it was when he wakes up. seems pretty normal for a 5 yr old.
lisa
recently a friend told me her and her husband split up because they were moving in different dirrections.
they've been married for years, children grown, she wanted to go out and do things,..new and different things.
he didn't, he would rather stay home.
Recently a friend told me her and her husband split up because they were moving in different dirrections. They've been married for years, children grown, she wanted to go out and do things,..new and different things. He didn't, he would rather stay home. So she started going out and doing thing without him, started taking classes, joined some clubs, ect. To show his dissatifaction, he quit speaking to her, sometimes for days at a time.
Yestereday, the 70 yr old woman I worked with, told me her husband hasn't spoken to her in a few days, because he doesn't like that she is still so involved in her grown children and her grandchildren's life. (her son has just recently lost his eye sight, can no longer drive and is just now at 40+ learning how to live with a disability. One of the grandchildren lives with a drunk mother and isn't cared for properly. Grandmother takes her to the doctors appts, ect.)
Another friend told me when her husband is upset with her, he gets on his laptop and ignores her...again. pouting...again sometimes for days.
All of these men, I've met. I was entirely shocked that this POUTING, is the way they deal with something they don't like.
Why???
What does that accomplish?
lisa
i moved to a small town about a year and a half ago.
a jehovah's witness came knocking on my door and i gave him the brush-off but he kept coming back and pestering me until i finally agreed to study with him.
we've been studying for about three or four months now and he has lost his original enthusiasm to the point where i am starting to worry about him.
The JW's that have come to my house...once I show them my objections, and after they can't change my mind with their bs or answer my questions, they just quit coming over. At least one, stopped going to the meeting all together.
Your study buddy may come back with some more higher powered JW.
Offer friendship, if you're interested in this person as a friend. Know that he is lost and confused.
lisa